Compass agreement

[Linedriver]

I know this Compass agreement is old news but the timeliness of this recent communique concerning Delta flow down concerns me.

Any thoughts?

 

[Whine Lover]

Can you give us a lil' info here?

WHAT "recent communique" do you speak of?

WTF are you talking about. Specifically?

Without specifics... We can't even begin to properly degrade you, talk about how Compass "Sucks Dong", let alone begin to start a discussion as to why the "New" DAL/NWA sucks so bad that even the captives want to believe that ALL IS WELL.

Love,


YKMKR

 

[lookin4better]

Not sure what you're talking about either.... but if you took a job with a flow-through agreement, be prepared for a possible flow back to occur.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Paging ACL...

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

The council 44 communique came out today. It goes over the resolution that was passed in regards to Compass.

 

[Superpilot92]

I like pizza!!! Yess!!!:nuts:

 

[Linedriver]

Not sure what you're talking about either.... but if you took a job with a flow-through agreement, be prepared for a possible flow back to occur.

There was an update that went out today for the LEC meeting that took place earlier this month.

Really was wondering if the discussion of the Compass representation and resolution on the flow back was coincidental or if they are getting their ducks in a row for some adjustment.

Was addressing any Delta guys in the know.

 

[Superpilot92]

different LECs are putting out opposite things on the subject. Bottom line, It has nothing really to do with the flow changing.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Well, yet another reason I feel it would be best for Compass to remain within Delta MEC. If you guys were to flowback, you'd still be able to vote on mainline issues within your LEC. Remember we still have FNWA guys on the property at Compass as well, although I think only 3 remain.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Exactly, we will see how the MEC acts at their meeting in MEM this week.
After the DTW meeting this weeks there should be no fewer than three resolutions for keeping them part of the MEC and one against. (66 in NYC)

 

[Truckdriver]

Exactly, we will see how the MEC acts at their meeting in MEM this week.
After the DTW meeting this weeks there should be no fewer than three resolutions for keeping them part of the MEC and one against. (66 in NYC)

I'm willing to put money down that they will act on the one against.

 

[~~~^~~~]

We have been asked for input. I'm drafting my "input" and hope you will too.

We need to answer this Compass question strategically. We need to evaluate what our scope goals are, once we do that, the Compass question answers itself.

 

[Monster Buck]

Here is some info. Take it for what it is worth. I went to one of the Phase of Flight meetings with the company suits. Any Delta guys that haven't gone and think it is a waste of time I think you would be surprised. It was actually very informative. During the Q&A at the end the subjects turned to the company, scope and possible furloughs. I brought up the flow back in my questioning about the how it would go. Some suit stepped in(so many I forgot which one it was) and said "look....with the fuel savings, the large amount of cash we have and synergies we would have to go to 20 percent under to even take that direction. BTW he said 9-11 knocked them back 12 %. He also said above and beyond it is a 18-24 months to START to gain on a furlough due to the process. Also he said with all the work that still has to be done to combine the two pilot operations, the last thing they need is to deal with is the hell that comes with furloughing a few hundred guys. Also they are still short(albeit slightly) for summer '09 and summer '10 which is still going to have a 1% rise over '09. He said we will offers some sills for fall and that is it. We are not going to furlough unless we get hit with twice what 9-11 did to us.

 

[JimmyKool]

Over-all picture. Everything will suck if it doesn't already. Sorry!

 

[Monster Buck]

Over-all picture. Everything will suck if it doesn't already. Sorry!

Coming from your perspective I sure it does.imp:

 

[~~~^~~~]

Over-all picture. Everything will suck if it doesn't already. Sorry!

Everyone feels a great deal of fatigue on junior pilot issues. A long war of attrition has that effect.

Even more reason to ask our Reps to come at scope with fresh thinking and a new strategy to recapture flying.

 

[Superpilot92]

Here is some info. Take it for what it is worth. I went to one of the Phase of Flight meetings with the company suits. Any Delta guys that haven't gone and think it is a waste of time I think you would be surprised. It was actually very informative. During the Q&A at the end the subjects turned to the company, scope and possible furloughs. I brought up the flow back in my questioning about the how it would go. Some suit stepped in(so many I forgot which one it was) and said "look....with the fuel savings, the large amount of cash we have and synergies we would have to go to 20 percent under to even take that direction. BTW he said 9-11 knocked them back 12 %. He also said above and beyond it is a 18-24 months to START to gain on a furlough due to the process. Also he said with all the work that still has to be done to combine the two pilot operations, the last thing they need is to deal with is the hell that comes with furloughing a few hundred guys. Also they are still short(albeit slightly) for summer '09 and summer '10 which is still going to have a 1% rise over '09. He said we will offers some sills for fall and that is it. We are not going to furlough unless we get hit with twice what 9-11 did to us.

good info Thanks!

 

[Vykus]

Linedriver,

Any chance I could get a copy of that memo?

Vykus

 

[Linedriver]

Here is some info. Take it for what it is worth. I went to one of the Phase of Flight meetings with the company suits. Any Delta guys that haven't gone and think it is a waste of time I think you would be surprised. It was actually very informative. During the Q&A at the end the subjects turned to the company, scope and possible furloughs. I brought up the flow back in my questioning about the how it would go. Some suit stepped in(so many I forgot which one it was) and said "look....with the fuel savings, the large amount of cash we have and synergies we would have to go to 20 percent under to even take that direction. BTW he said 9-11 knocked them back 12 %. He also said above and beyond it is a 18-24 months to START to gain on a furlough due to the process. Also he said with all the work that still has to be done to combine the two pilot operations, the last thing they need is to deal with is the hell that comes with furloughing a few hundred guys. Also they are still short(albeit slightly) for summer '09 and summer '10 which is still going to have a 1% rise over '09. He said we will offers some sills for fall and that is it. We are not going to furlough unless we get hit with twice what 9-11 did to us.

That is some good information. I'm cautiously optimistic - for now.

 

[Linedriver]

Linedriver,

Any chance I could get a copy of that memo?

Vykus

While I don't see anything that would breach any kind of confidentiality, some may think this is confidential information, so I won't be able to get it to you. Sorry.

Our email was a request for input and summary of the resolution which commented, among other things, on the bilateral flow-through agreement between Delta and Compass, specificly the flow back rights.