any new rumors of furloughs at any of the fracs?

[Flex-ible]

For those that actually give a sh_t about the original question, at Flex in the last week or so I've come across:

"I heard another 25..."
"I heard another 50..."
"I heard another 75..."
"I heard they're takin' us down to 400..."
"I heard 3 sets of 25, 3 months apart..."
"I heard none until summer..."
"I heard 100 total..."
"I heard that would be it unless (and I like this part) the economy continues to deteriorate..."
"I heard that was it..."
"I heard a fleet size of 75 airplanes..."

and many more... take your pick

I'll take (F) and (H). Throw in an Air Chef crew meal, a free night at Haxmat Heights, and I'll give you the phone number of a flight attendent to be named later!

 

[Hung Start]

Throw in an Air Chef crew meal, a free night at Haxmat Heights, and I'll give you the phone number of a flight attendent to be named later!

Jeez! At least I can survive a layoff,, not too sure about the meal!

Hung

 

[captain dad]

You might want to double check your tax cut percentage. The analysis I watched on CNN said the final bill had tax cuts that would cost about 25% of the total. And a large chunk of the 25% is not actually tax cuts, it's welfare checks for non-income tax payers.

$288 Billion in tax relief out of $787 Billion is 36%.

http://www.recovery.gov/


Why are tax breaks to the rich considered good fiscial responsibility to the republicans, while doing the same thing for the less wealthy is considered welfare?

By the way, increasing funds to the people that will spend it instead of paying down debt or saving it, is by definition what the Stimulus is supposed to do.

More Republican Blah Blah Blah.

Do you even know anyone that makes the 30K a year? Go spew your garbage to them. I'll bet you get your a$$ kicked.

 

[x402]

Do you even know anyone that makes the 30K a year? Go spew your garbage to them. I'll bet you get your a$$ kicked.

I do, and they don't pay taxes. To send tax rebates to someone NOT paying taxes is WELFARE. Call it what you like but it's my $$$$ going to someone not paying $$$$. Yours too, capt dad.

 

[jehtplane]

$288 Billion in tax relief out of $787 Billion is 36%.

http://www.recovery.gov/


Why are tax breaks to the rich considered good fiscial responsibility to the republicans, while doing the same thing for the less wealthy is considered welfare?

By the way, increasing funds to the people that will spend it instead of paying down debt or saving it, is by definition what the Stimulus is supposed to do.

More Republican Blah Blah Blah.

Do you even know anyone that makes the 30K a year? Go spew your garbage to them. I'll bet you get your a$$ kicked.

Your little golden boys stimulus package is gonna fail miserably. Watch and see.....

 

[Crash Pad]

And he believes "O" today when he said that this stimulus package doesn't have any earmarks or pork. I about shat myself when he said that. Train from LA to Vegas (Reid), study the marshlands around San Fran (Pelosi), frisbee golf in Austin. Gimme a break. Just watch the Dow fool, their reaction speaks volumes. (No pun intended).

 

[DirtyBeech]

You're arguing over deck chairs on the Titanic boys. The party's over.


As for Flex I've heard only 80ish net cum sold. We have 101 aircraft. Do the math. More furloughs are on the way.

 

[Boxer]

He said "net cum sold"....

 

[brokeflyer]

i always knew that stuff would be worth something someday......glad i saved some.

 

[Cobra]

Your little golden boys stimulus package is gonna fail miserably. Watch and see.....

And let me guess. Somehow, the first plan through Bernanke and Paulson is going to miraculously work better?

All this amounts to is sour grapes on behalf of the sore losers from this past November.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Your little golden boys stimulus package is gonna fail miserably. Watch and see.....

Such an awesome avatar but like the avatar, not much to listen to in conversation.

 

[rettofly]

Tax cuts for the rich...

Why are tax breaks to the rich considered good fiscial responsibility to the republicans, while doing the same thing for the less wealthy is considered welfare?

When the tax burden on the "rich" (especially small business owners) is reduced, there is a good chance that some of them will expand their business, which leads to (surprise!) job creation.

This makes a lot more economic sense than giving "rebates" to folks who aren't paying income taxes to begin with. "Payroll taxes" don't count in this equation; this deduction is intended to be an insurance premium to cover SS and Medicare in retirement.

Question for debate: Who among us has ever been given employment by a poor person?

Flame away!

 

[av8trinabarrel]

OneBigAssMistake,America.....

Sitting in the lobby of my hotel the other day waiting for the van, I couldn't help but hear the conversation coming from a couple of 400 pound southern folks. Quote "I can't wait ta get me my check from obama...I can finally get dem rims fo my cady". Now I'm happy she is doing her part to spend and get the economy going, but 2 minutes later she had her 5 kids come out of the elevator looking like they had just crawled out from under a freeway overpass. Absolutely pathetic that she was gonna put rims on a car she more than likely couldn't afford, much less put clothes on her half naked children.

Sure feels good knowing that the welfare system is alive and doing good for folks who really need nice rims.....:angryfire

 

[2EASYPilot]

The Fannie's

Here is an article the gives a pretty good synopsis of how we ended up where we are.

http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/democrats-created-fannie-mae-and.html

 

[Cobra]

Why are tax breaks to the rich considered good fiscial responsibility to the republicans, while doing the same thing for the less wealthy is considered welfare?

When the tax burden on the "rich" (especially small business owners) is reduced, there is a good chance that some of them will expand their business, which leads to (surprise!) job creation.

This makes a lot more economic sense than giving "rebates" to folks who aren't paying income taxes to begin with. "Payroll taxes" don't count in this equation; this deduction is intended to be an insurance premium to cover SS and Medicare in retirement.

Question for debate: Who among us has ever been given employment by a poor person?

Flame away!

Yes, that all works fine and well until corporate America doesn't want to pay their employees anything nor provide some semblance of benefits. Folks, you can't have a long term healthy economy with a middle class that's down in the dumps. Ain't gonna happen, period.