PDT reduce fleet, furloughs in the future.

[WSurf]

Where do you work at?? your opinion/coment would carry a bit more weight if we knew where you work at......if you don't want to tell us (for whatever reason), its cool

Unless its Mesa it doesn't really matter. We all suck in one way or the other.

Some fly cool airplanes that pay sh$t. Some have good contracts that fly Sh$t. Some fly okay planes with okay contracts with no upgrades in sight. Some pay sh&t and have a sh&t contract but offer fast upgrades.

So really does it matter. I think we are all found somewhere in there.

 

[twighead]

Unless its Mesa it doesn't really matter. We all suck in one way or the other.

Some fly cool airplanes that pay sh$t. Some have good contracts that fly Sh$t. Some fly okay planes with okay contracts with no upgrades in sight. Some pay sh&t and have a sh&t contract but offer fast upgrades.

So really does it matter. I think we are all found somewhere in there.

Appreciate all the advice guys.

...and he's a former PDT who now works at Mesaba

 

[Sig]

[MY OPINION, WITH RELEVANT FACTS]

Twig-

This is exactly what SF wants, because this is how SF gets. When we were floating Q400 rates, one senior CA very much begged certain powers that be to roll over and accept current 100 payrates for possible LTPs on property.

Why?

He was terrified. And he wasn't alone. He and his ilk were staring down the barrel of a bunch of much younger, much less pensioned (!!), much less paid and therefore having much less to lose pilots willing to burn this place down. It was all so much a chimera on a turd tower we now know, but the night time whatifs strike hard and powerfully.

That's one WAYYYY senior view of how things can look threatening or just downright terrible- and the reaction thereto.

Your reaction to this damned frustrating turn of events is absolutely warranted, but don't let it burn you out. It will win, and by extension, so will management.

Sit back, take a breath, look around.

If ANYTHING, you're in the most understaffed base, far from the bottom systemwide, and are for now making a paycheck. That's the absolute minimum way of looking at this place- and don't let the feeling of a stagnating career or your back against the wall lead to giving in to the spiraling sheetstorm that will keep you up late.

You probably won't have to move bases. I almost certainly will, unless I downgrade. Downgrade isn't nearly as bad to me as a forced commute- a base closure/realignment is my nightmare of nightmares. In fact, a downgrade would be an extreme boost to my QOL. And it won't happen until I'm forced to do so.

We are so far from the bottom of this thing, too. Hold tight- it's going to be a rough, rough ride. Don't let this burn you out. Show up, work, go home- and leave this place in the crew room.

When the time comes and the decision is to be made, pull the ripcord and shout "AMF, SUCK IT!" Don't look back. But for now, don't fret. There are many, many worse places to be (on the street!??) until it all picks up again.

 

[Metro752]

I read ya'll are losing four dash.

who has five dash?

 

[WSurf]

I read ya'll are losing four dash.

who has five dash?

I think your mom ate it!

 

[twighead]

[MY OPINION, WITH RELEVANT FACTS]

Twig-

This is exactly what SF wants, because this is how SF gets. When we were floating Q400 rates, one senior CA very much begged certain powers that be to roll over and accept current 100 payrates for possible LTPs on property.

Why?

He was terrified. And he wasn't alone. He and his ilk were staring down the barrel of a bunch of much younger, much less pensioned (!!), much less paid and therefore having much less to lose pilots willing to burn this place down. It was all so much a chimera on a turd tower we now know, but the night time whatifs strike hard and powerfully.

That's one WAYYYY senior view of how things can look threatening or just downright terrible- and the reaction thereto.

Your reaction to this damned frustrating turn of events is absolutely warranted, but don't let it burn you out. It will win, and by extension, so will management.

Sit back, take a breath, look around.

If ANYTHING, you're in the most understaffed base, far from the bottom systemwide, and are for now making a paycheck. That's the absolute minimum way of looking at this place- and don't let the feeling of a stagnating career or your back against the wall lead to giving in to the spiraling sheetstorm that will keep you up late.

You probably won't have to move bases. I almost certainly will, unless I downgrade. Downgrade isn't nearly as bad to me as a forced commute- a base closure/realignment is my nightmare of nightmares. In fact, a downgrade would be an extreme boost to my QOL. And it won't happen until I'm forced to do so.

We are so far from the bottom of this thing, too. Hold tight- it's going to be a rough, rough ride. Don't let this burn you out. Show up, work, go home- and leave this place in the crew room.

When the time comes and the decision is to be made, pull the ripcord and shout "AMF, SUCK IT!" Don't look back. But for now, don't fret. There are many, many worse places to be (on the street!??) until it all picks up again.

I hear what you guys are saying. I probably won't be going anywhere, and I will show up and do my job. There are definitely those out there that are worse off than me and I am trying to stay positive. Overall, I am fairly satisfied working here and I wouldn't leave this place for just any flying job.

The main problem is I used to believe that we were a piece of the future for US Airways, even if it was a small one. I no longer believe that. I go into work now and pretty much feel like the only thing I'm doing is being a place holder for US Air LGA slots until they can find something better and then drop us.

There is no investment into this company of any kind- airplanes, avionics, software for scheduling or payroll, the list goes on and on. (aside from things we get for free from the FAA or other companies). Not even when the economy was good. This place is almost archaic- we don't even have company email.

I know other regionals can easily fail too, but it won't be for the same reasons as PDT. They may fail for economic reasons, but at least they try to invest into new equipment, flying and improving their position. We do none of those things and it is frustrating and depressing.

I know there are good things at PDT also, and for the most part I like working here and I like flying with all (most ) you guys. There is a lot of potential for things to get better here and it just seems to be wasted. Anyway, I'm sure I'll be here with everyone else to sink with this ship.

P.S. If that CA you were talking about has a last intial of "T", I really dislike that DB.

 

[twighead]

Enough of this serious stuff though. Let's just go back to talking about PJ, flowthrough and other funny stuff.

 

[zasca]

Ahahaha, Have you be T****rtized Twighead??? I personally love his recent exploits feathering that engine because of a bad gauge.....

Lot's of Senior Papi's stewing the doom and gloom in the crew room. Hopefully the company offers early retirement to those guys; for their sake and ours.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Best of luck to all the Piedmonsters. My short stint their was some of the most fun I have had with my clothes on! :blush:

 

[twighead]

Ahahaha, Have you be T****rtized Twighead??? I personally love his recent exploits feathering that engine because of a bad gauge.....

Lot's of Senior Papi's stewing the doom and gloom in the crew room. Hopefully the company offers early retirement to those guys; for their sake and ours.

Rofl depsite numerous swaps I still get T*****tized once in a while. I don't think I have heard about this feathering incident you speak of though. Do tell.

I do have a couple of good stories about him, but they are better told in person

 

[OPECJet]

I'll be the one who goes to bat for the ol' T since he was one of the ones who went to bat for me when I needed it, and turned out to be a good friend to boot even before that happened.

Get to know the guy, and you'll probably end up liking him. He's a good egg all around. First time I met / flew with the guy I didn't think we'd end up getting along too well. I was wrong about that. Go have a beer with the guy and you'll see what I mean.

I heard a short and condensed version of the feathering thing, and it's exactly what I would have done. Also what the checklist says to do.

 

[mu2]

I have also feathered it because of an oil transmitter. That's what the checklist says to do. How do you know that it's just the gauge?

 

[WSurf]

Well if the Low Oil Pressure Light comes on you do what the checklist says.

 

[lear24]

I will show up and do my job.

When did this start?

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

I'll be the one who goes to bat for the ol' T since he was one of the ones who went to bat for me when I needed it, and turned out to be a good friend to boot even before that happened.

Get to know the guy, and you'll probably end up liking him. He's a good egg all around. First time I met / flew with the guy I didn't think we'd end up getting along too well. I was wrong about that. Go have a beer with the guy and you'll see what I mean.

I heard a short and condensed version of the feathering thing, and it's exactly what I would have done. Also what the checklist says to do.

I agree... Not being there I wouldn't want to second guess the captain in question. "T" is particular and an occassional trail to his FOs, but he knows the airplane.

That being said I do believe the checklist says to shut the engine down if you get the ENG OIL PRESS warning light OR if the pressure is noted below 40 psi. If you noticed the pressure was on the low side... It could be a bad gauge, or you could have a faulty pressure switch for the light. I think that is why the checklist reads the way it does.

 

[twighead]

When did this start?

You got me. I will show up sometimes, and do my job to the lowest competence level.

You think your too good for us now that you are on that 747? Don't make us box you up in the basement again!

 

[zasca]

Hearsay I know, but the story is "45" was what the gauge said and no lights.

 

[Flyin2low]

We had a lot of oil press sensor failures in the D328. I got one during cruise and just reduced power to idle for a minute and then the engine seized up. It actually wasn't a sensor problem, it was real.

 

[Captzaahlie]

As a new capt many years ago, I found one of those oil pressure gauges reading on the low side and tapped it with the back of my cross pen until the glass shattered.... showed it who the boss was!
:laugh:

 

[OPECJet]

As a new capt many years ago, I found one of those oil pressure gauges reading on the low side and tapped it with the back of my cross pen until the glass shattered.... showed it who the boss was!
:laugh:

That's a good one.....:smash:

Did something similar with a master caution light. It wouldn't come on, so I kept pushing it until the smoke came out. Oops....