ASA to furlough?

[JumpersAway]

ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON

Your posts are improving. This one was marginally coherent, had complete sentences, and no spelling errors.

 

[rf285]

SP- the gentleman that gave you your linecheck is simply another line pilot. He knows no more than you do, myself, or anyone else that flies the line. All that is floating around right now is conjecture- personally, I am thinking the time to furlough has come and gone- any furloughs at this point are simply not worth it. That is, if our flying returns to a level that it has been at in the past, for the summer months. The only way I could see furloughs is if Delta drastically cuts DCI flying for the summer. Even with a weak economy, we were still busy last year, and it was announced that financial analysis illustrated we were in a recession even durring the previous summer.

Delta isn't going to hire for a very long time. I cannot think of a single case in airline history where two airlines merged, and then hired as a result. However, I can recount many, many, many instances where a furlough insued after a merger- it's that case with nearly all of them. I'm not saying Delta is going to furlough, but the odds of them hiring are slim, at best.

I too second Stiffler's request for more vids: )

You must not remember the Western merger then. Most of our senior pilots were hired from 87 to 91.

 

[CFI2766]

ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON

You...are...a...

MORON.

Still upset that ASA wouldn't hire ya'?

 

[USCtrojan]

Additionally, did anyone see how much open time there is for CPT's this month? Crazy. I've put in 5 trip swaps and to avail due to 'Coverage.' Not on Xmas either or New years, one of the days fall on a Sat in the middle of the month, and they still won't swap it. i find it hard to believe we're gonna furlough with that. But who knows.

Trojan

 

[sweptback]

You...are...a...

MORON.

Still upset that ASA wouldn't hire ya'?

I believe he left ASA for Airtran, but I could be wrong.

 

[sweptback]

That is, if our flying returns to a level that it has been at in the past, for the summer months. The only way I could see furloughs is if Delta drastically cuts DCI flying for the summer.

Bingo. I think we're not going to furlough, but if we do, I don't think that would forecast good times ahead for ASA. The only way management would pull the trigger on this is if they knew our summer schedule would be cut, and cut hard. With Mesaba gearing up to set up shop in ATL, it's possible. The 200 does a lot of short hops that will be sent to the Saab... it just depends on what they replace it with I guess.

 

[Ridgeback]

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With Mesaba gearing up to set up shop in ATL, it's possible. The 200 does a lot of short hops that will be sent to the Saab... it just depends on what they replace it with I guess.

Mesaba is looking into the ATR72-600 as the Saab replacement. They were looking into this as late as last year only to have the project put on hold...the merger...Ask about the special projects team S.L. and company were part of...

Look for the ATR at Mesaba within a few years..

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Some members of ASA management think that furloughs are needed for cost savings. However, CT reports to BH, and BH is against furloughs. The system chief pilot does what he is told, it is not a decision up to him. The GO was prepared for training and increased block hours for -900 airframes. Those did not come.

ASA hasn't furloughed yet, and they won't until they do.

 

[JumpersAway]

ASA hasn't furloughed yet, and they won't until they do.

Haha! BRILLIANT!- I'm off to grab a Guiness....

 

[crjskipper]

ridgeback - stop flaming. mesaba doesnt choose what they operate. delta does and delta isnt looking at any turboprops currently, and doesnt want the saabs they have, but since they have them they will use them till the leases expire. mesaba can no more choose what they fly then comair. and if tp's do return asa has a nice rate already established.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The block hrs you want to watch are the ones for March. I believe that you will see a change in those......
As for announcements, they will becoming out in the next week to week and a half. (Shortly after SLI for DAL/NWA)

 

[wlacy]

a guiness at 7 am? 'atta boy

 

[CFI2766]

The block hrs you want to watch are the ones for March. I believe that you will see a change in those......
As for announcements, they will becoming out in the next week to week and a half. (Shortly after SLI for DAL/NWA)

Okay, I'll bite: Why March?

Seems like a fairly slow month for the airline biz, why the significance of March?

 

[OCP]

Mesaba is looking into the ATR72-600 as the Saab replacement. They were looking into this as late as last year only to have the project put on hold...the merger...Ask about the special projects team S.L. and company were part of...

Look for the ATR at Mesaba within a few years..

ASA already has the atr72 certificate and trained pilots and mechanics. Why would they go to Mesaba?

 

[McNugent]

ASA already has the atr72 certificate and trained pilots and mechanics. Why would they go to Mesaba?

because he's trying to get a rise out of you, and it's working.

 

[nellie2110]

ridgeback - stop flaming. mesaba doesnt choose what they operate. delta does and delta isnt looking at any turboprops currently, and doesnt want the saabs they have, but since they have them they will use them till the leases expire. mesaba can no more choose what they fly then comair. and if tp's do return asa has a nice rate already established.

crjskipper- You are right about who chooses what to fly, but you have to be a fool to think they don't want saabs. Richard Anderson the former CEO of northwest wanted saabs. I forgot where is he now? TP's are making the come back due to the gas scare. It has gotten better now, but crj200 are the worst plane ever made from a money making view. They are as practical as the concord for an average person. I will also agree that was flame about mesaba looking into the ATR, everyone knows they have always been looking at the dash.

 

[crj567]

The block hrs you want to watch are the ones for March. I believe that you will see a change in those......
As for announcements, they will becoming out in the next week to week and a half. (Shortly after SLI for DAL/NWA)

This guy is the new Gen Lee.... I can not believe he ever lowered himself to flying "prop trash" at any point in his life.

He has chosen to take the same path of bashing the "little guy" as the General, and it is proving to be equally classless. Check out some of his pompus posts on the majors forum.

I never will understand how these guys who derive pleasure from all this "I fly a bigger airplane" crap. When I was a flight insructor, I didn't run around and make fun of the student pilots because they had never flown a "big airplane" like a Seminole..... Maybe ACL65 did that-it would be consistent with his lack of class and common decency.

 

[Abernathy]

Guys there is like a 3+ year waiting list for the new ATRs. I'd be hard pressed to imagine Mesaba getting any of those anytime soon.

Would also be a major kick in the face for ASA if it did happen 5 years down the road.

 

[outtahere]

From Brad Holts mouth on Thanksgiving day in the crew lounge. He stated that we are okay in Jan., Feb is when the fourloughs would happen if they happen at all. He did say that any fourlough would be short term, but they hope to avoid them all together if they can due to the overall effect on morale and hurting the pilots fourloughed.

 

[Andy Neill]

Post 9/11, SkyWest was fat on pilots also. They didn't furlough. I don't see that as the sole criteria for SkyWest Inc. deciding to furlough or not as long as ASA is making money.