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crj567 said:
Check out 61.51....

The Logging of flight time is what's important to this issue. Sometimes there is a difference between who is required and who can log what.

Now-you could possibly log this flight time, IF the plane doesn't have an approved autopilot, and IF it is an IFR flight.

People need to be very careful with this one.... Some companies have an insurance policy which requires two pilots, even though the FARs do not. I am not sure about this outfit, but if they have approved autopilots, no one can legally log SIC at any time.

Many scumbag operations will tell all their young impressionable F.O.s that an SIC is always required, and they can always log that time..... Maybe so, maybe not-especially if an F.O. is only required for insurance purposes.

One thing I am certain of is that the Caravan is not a two-pilot type certification aircraft. There may be times when two pilots are required, but they are not required to operate the aircraft.

Be very careful with this stuff-it can cost you a job one day if the people looking at the ol' logbook really know the regs and you are logging incorrectly. Uncomfortable questions can arise.
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I undersand 61.51. (See 14CFR 61.55 (f)(2)) Even if the airplane has an autopilot, if the captain didn't get the autopilot exemption on his 8410, or does not have 100 hours in type, according to the FAR's, carrying passengers, you have to have an SIC. If you are trained, checked and required per the operaions, you can log it. Even though the minimum crew is 1 in a caravan, if the operation (through ops specs or FAR's, not insurance) requires two pilots, you can log it as SIC.
 
Flew over this li'l town in Georgia.

Had to pee.

Opened the door.

And so it was named: "Make on Georgia"

Closed the door and flew on.....
 
FlyCMI said:
I undersand 61.51. (See 14CFR 61.55 (f)(2)) Even if the airplane has an autopilot, if the captain didn't get the autopilot exemption on his 8410, or does not have 100 hours in type, according to the FAR's, carrying passengers, you have to have an SIC. If you are trained, checked and required per the operaions, you can log it. Even though the minimum crew is 1 in a caravan, if the operation (through ops specs or FAR's, not insurance) requires two pilots, you can log it as SIC.
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-You are correct, but many people don't understand what they are logging and why.... You have to make sure that these circumstances exist, and there are no exemptions to these rules in the ops specs.

Many people have no idea what they are logging or why. I have seen people with 250 hrs total time who logged part 135 PIC in a Baron..... No good way to address that should it come up in an interview-you are just screwed.

I would even keep a copy of the ops specs for years afterward-and take it around with you logbook when interviewing. This stuff will look fishy in a real interview, but once you explain it, the interviewer will be O.K.

Just be conservative and have a very thorough understanding of what yuo can log, not just "the C.P. told me it was O.K." to log sort of stuff....
 
go!ng for broke said:
If two airlines service the same airport the sub. is not renewed..
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One flys from MCN the other from MAC (Macon downtown Herbert Smart.) does seem like a wast.

I tried to jump seat on these guys the other day, but no dice. So I paid the $37 bucks and rode in a nice NEW caravan all by myself up to ATL. No TSA hassel in MCN and it was pennies more than the van ride. (Prices were do to double the next day) I cool to be in the 'van again but I'm sure I had as much time in the thing as the whole flight crew.
 
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Stale recycled air? That's BS! All you have to do is ask the FA to tell the CA to use two packs and/or send the fresh, mountain-filtered flight deck air to the cabin.

Dork.

-Brett
 
The funny thing about "Captain Soulpatch" is that it is crooked.....

I guess it is hard to shave straight when you are not straight....... Also, all those wine coolers and apple-tinis he downed while watching "Sex and the City" with Gen Lee probably make for hell of a man-girl hangover. Hard to shave thru one of those, I would imagine.
 
G-force said:
The caravans of Georgia Sky/Pacific Wings park at Atlantic FBO on the north side since they have not been cleared by TSA and have no gate!!
The navajo's of Wings Air have a GATE!!
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They have a van parked at Atlantic awaiting the flight that brings pax over to the terminal.
 
Sweet a Caravan I'm so guna apply so I can build my turbine time up!
 
.... why are all the Captains guys and FO's chicks? Plexiglass ceiling?

They all look like the kids on the SkyWest web site.

At least on the ASA site, "Biscuit" looked like someone you could trust with anything other than a can of Pringles.
 
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.... why are all the Captains guys and FO's chicks? Plexiglass ceiling?

They all look like the kids on the SkyWest web site.

At least on the ASA site, "Biscuit" looked like someone you could trust with anything other than a can of Pringles.
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I wouldn't trust "biscuit" with very much...... I hear he eats babies.....
 
crj567 said:
The funny thing about "Captain Soulpatch" is that it is crooked.....

I guess it is hard to shave straight when you are not straight....... Also, all those wine coolers and apple-tinis he downed while watching "Sex and the City" with Gen Lee probably make for hell of a man-girl hangover. Hard to shave thru one of those, I would imagine.
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Have you applied to this airline yet? You probably will out of necessity, and I think you might want to start out on the ramp first. The female FOs probably won't give you the time of day, though.....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Just imagine the roundhouse kick Gen Lee would get if he ever meets Chuck Norris.....

Ol' Chuck would nail him so hard, all that would be left would be a little pile of skittles.

-Best steer clear of Chuck, Gen-he don't get along too well with self-obsessed a$$ clowns!
 
crj567 said:
Just imagine the roundhouse kick Gen Lee would get if he ever meets Chuck Norris.....

Ol' Chuck would nail him so hard, all that would be left would be a little pile of skittles.

-Best steer clear of Chuck, Gen-he don't get along too well with self-obsessed a$$ clowns!
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Can anyone figure out what this guy is saying? I think he needs a breathalizer......

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I think you may be the one in need of diagnostics if you think I am "saying" anything.....

This is an internet forum.... The last time I checked, we were all using keyboards rather than microphones.

-Dumbass!
 
G-force said:
Still trying to find out what the PAY,QOL,working conditions are at this place!!
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I'd like to know myself; but, I'm guessing that if that information is this hard to obtain the answer is probably "not good" on all counts...............or the best kept secret in the aviation industry; but, I'm guessing that's not the case.
 
I thought essential air service was relegated to airports beyond 150-200nm from an neighboring airport with more than 100k annual enplanements; just as the Pax FET and segment tax exemptions require? I don't see MCN on the list of airports exempt from these fees?

100-1/2
 
Nevermind....

Looks like a fun gig while it lasts.

They would be more profitable if they just parked the airplanes, took the taxpayers' money and ran.
 
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Probably Right!!!

7574EVER;1722221[QUOTE said:
]I'd like to know myself; but, I'm guessing that if that information is this hard to obtain the answer is probably "not good" on all counts...............or the best kept secret in the aviation industry; but, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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Believe you are probably right,there are a lot of negative posts about this place,not one that I saw was positive!! A good chance this outfit is a BOTTOM-FEEDER!!!
 
This is old information but about two years ago there was a post on Climbto350.com for Pacific Wings C-208 (FOs) that also worked the ticket counter and loaded bags for $8.50 an hour. Don't know if any of that has changed or would be different in Georgia. Sounds like a poor operation however, as most have said, and one would be better off elsewhere. Hope this helps.

I've got a couple of buddies at Atlantic (Mercury), and will see if they have any info from the pilots. I will post any info if I remember to ask.
 
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