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Carl S.

Carl S.

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Judge Wake has ruled for an DFR case against USAPA from the formers AWA pilots to be done in less than 90 days. The ruling has some good smack down on USAPA, but lets LCC off for out of order layoffs that have occurred.
 
Hey wait just one minute............


Those usapa Rocket Scientists said this case had no Merit.........

Certainly the usapa Rocket Scientists couldn't have been Wrong.

Clearly someone else is at fault and is responsible for this. We will soon be hearing from usapa on who is to blame.

Fast
 
First a Federal Arbitrator, now a Federal Judge. When will these morons learn that you cant fight city hall. Their wasting alot of money on lawsuits and additionally giving up alot of money in work rules and salaries as their group works under their LOA from WHEN???????? Give it a break guys, and stop biting off your noses to spite your face. East Pilots need to start voicing their concerns loudly about the USAPA leaders. They will try to spin this Federal Judges decision and plans to act within 90 days but its just more of the same. MOVE ON!
 
Every East Pilot needs to read the ruling in its entirety and then make your own decision on whether or not you want to keep funding these clowns that call themselves UNION LEADERS. My guess is your going to be ready to move on.
 
Raoul Duke said:
quit teasing, where can we read the carnage?
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When USAPA discovers that the ruling doesn't support their goals, it will immediately move to form a new court of law, - USTAPLE - USairways True And Permanent Law Edicts. They will have their judge make a new ruling, exonerating them from any wrongdoing, which they will of course abide by since it comes from a court of law, which must be obeyed. Judge Wake and his court will be stapled underneath the USTAPLE court and then be forced to go on furlough because they refused to hear daily jaywalking cases, the only cases left after USTAPLE took all the good ones.

HAL
 
I just read the BS PHX/LAS base "update" from the CLT hordes. They openly brag that they have 500k per month income and fighting them will be futile.

Good. I'm glad they're flushed with Cash. They're going to need it. The Judge made it clear that when all of this is over...in 90 days, USAPA will be paying all of the out-of-nic-order furloughees to stay home.

I strongly encourage all East me mbers of USAPA to sign up for DCO, They all have their fair share of damages to pay.

"Pay up and Gear up"
 
Wots DCO please?
 
I am an apprentice member, and furloughed. But I never participate in DCO here or with ALPO elsewhere.

I would give my left nut (it is substantially larger than my right) to have this civil war resolved and get a good contract from the true Homos running US Airways.
 
Its time to take back our union from the clowns that are running it. Every East Pilot that agrees should approach West Pilots when you see them and let them know how you feel. Together we can get rid of the leaders who are causing this union to drag its heals on our salaries and workrules.
 
becket said:
Fact. USAPA got it's ass handed to it again.
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How do you figure that?

All that has happened was the Judge said a DFR complaint can go ahead and be heard. Noone has won anything.

He dimissed the other two counts. Those being the using the Nic list for furloughing, and the furloughing out of senority complaint.

Hardly a victory for anyone, except the lawyers.
 
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I need East/USAPA spin! I love the "you won nothing" talk! Keeping getting all your info from USAPA Easties, it will help speed up the end,
 
I don't want to pour water on anyones bonfire, but in reality the desired remedy for the DFR suit will be that USAPA retract it's DOH list. Their foot-dragging has netted them the biggest gains and is a de-facto DOH list. The judge will not direct them to negotiate with any enthusiasm, nor will he direct the outcome of a future vote on the joint contract. So, expect more foot-dragging (until even the most ardent USAPA supporter[if there still is one] gets fed up and mounts a replacement to Bradford et.al.).

Whether or not the judge will order that Nic. be implemented apart from a joint contract is a real question.

So celebrate, but there should be alot of effort put forth to develop a viable replacement to USAPA.
 
weasel_lips said:
How do you figure that?

All that has happened was the Judge said a DFR complaint can go ahead and be heard. Noone has won anything.
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The Judge said a hell of a lot more than that. If your brave leaders ever allowed you to see the ruling, without their spin, it would become patently obvious to you what the Judge is actually saying.

You guys put on your USAPA colored glasses and allowed yourselves to be led down a path of financial peril. Can you imagine how big the assessments are going to be to pay damages to hundreds of pilots, AND court costs?

I'd go pick up an extra trip if I were you. Keep payin' them dues!
 
becket. How many numbers do you gain from your former USAIR classmates with the Nic?

M
 
MCDU said:
becket. How many numbers do you gain from your former USAIR classmates with the Nic?

M
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I'm sure he gaind NO numbers from the pilots that brough a job to the merger, he was just placed above the unemployed ones.

Patiently waiting for your "west jobs are worthless" comeback.

Come on MCDOOOOOOOSSSHHHH............bag where are you?


Hmmmmm Let's see an arbitrator, two pilot neutrals and now a federal judge all say USAir brought less to the table than America West. Yet a relative seniority merger of the EMPLOYED pilots is STILL not good enough for you. I'm sure you will soon spout off about how the EAST COAST POWERHOUSE THAT IS USAIRWAYS was just days form getting a billion dollar loan or even better the thought that the second bankrupcy was a management negotiating ploy. Or best of all the "we (usairways) saved America West."

This would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
 
Come on MCDOOOOOOOSSSHHHH............bag where are you?



Yes, the whole situation is tragic. AWA was a powerhouse and without the PHX and LAS hubs we out in the East would be doomed. Thanks for saving us .
I think it is also fair to put guys who are in their late 50's with 17 years of continous service behind 2005 new hires without any C&R. That snapshot in 2005 really was fair for us, since we would have liquidated like ALoha. I believe the Nic is a great deal for us Easties who have less then 10 years left. Thanks again AWA pilots for giving us jobs and saving us.

Now only if we can get that dam Nic list implemented so we can furlough Easties instead of Westies.

M
 
MCDU said:
I think it is also fair to put guys who are in their late 50's with 17 years of continous service behind 2005 new hires without any C&R.

M
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DID NOT HAPPEN! Please show us on the Nicolau list where this occured! You easties love to spin. Either that or you are so brainwashed by your "union" that you take all they offer via spoon.
 
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