NW/DL (and ultimately affecting ALL of us): The Flaw With "Career Expectations"

[PuffDriver]

FDJ,

All ALPA merger policy states when you boil it down is fair and equitable, with no windfalls to either side.


Nu

It's easy to say: The guy was wrong when he said ALPA merger policy has been thrown out.

Say it with me: NWAREDTAIL was wrong when he said, "ALPA merger policy was thrown out when the two mec agreed to expedited arbitration...."

See, it wasn't that hard.

 

[michael707767]

ALPA merger policy was thrown out when the two mec agreed to expedited arbitration and has NEVER been the precedent, only a guideline.

From the SLI process agreement. The only thing that was changed is the timeline. Which ALPA policy specifically allows you to do. So even the new timeline is based on ALPA policy.

[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']"10. The parties acknowledge that this Process Agreement constitutes an agreement pursuant to ALPA Merger Policy between the Delta MEC and the Northwest MEC for an expedited decision process to replace the decision process contained in ALPA Merger Policy."[/FONT]

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ,

All ALPA merger policy states when you boil it down is fair and equitable, with no windfalls to either side.

ALPA, merger policy says a little more than that, but more importantly is what was stripped from ALPA merger policy in 1991.

DOH/fences is a means to an end.


So are ratios which preserve jobs, maintain or improve pre merger pay, maintain pre merger status, maintain premerger quality of life and minimize detrimental effects to career expectations. Ratios have been the preferred mechanism for integrating pilot seniority lists since DOH was stripped from the policy.

If the arbitrators decide that DOH with 10 year fences IS fair and equitable, then that's what the decision will be. It doesn't matter what you think. THEY interpret what's fair.

If the arbitrators decide that ratios by pre merger pay with no fences is fair, then that's what the decision will be as well. However, I very much doubt they will be so cavalier. There job is to apply ALPA merger policy.

Interesting that Moak put out a notice that the award date had been slid when both parties had not agreed to it.

Communications breaking down on the old committee? Maybe you should spend more time proofreading Moak's letters rather than wasting time here.

Nu

I don't proof read any of Lee's letters, I get them just like any other line pilot.

Interesting that NALPA's Communications Committee resigned. Probably didn't want to continue publishing half truths or support those put out by your merger committee. Did the new NALPA communications committee ever get around to fixing that hot line where they said the average DAL pilot got paid 84 hours/month and that you could fly more hours under the DAL system then the NWA system? OOOPPPS, that might be prejudicial to the smoke and mirrors your merger committee's proposal is built on.

 

[FDJ2]

PS, you don't own them either, our mutual employer does.

That's what the CMR guys use to say. The fact is as we sit here today, I'm a DAL employee and you are an employee of a DAL wholly owned subsidiary, just like CMR. That will change in the near future, but until then......






...just having fun with you..

 

[FDJ2]

[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']"10. The parties acknowledge that this Process Agreement constitutes an agreement pursuant to ALPA Merger Policy between the Delta MEC and the Northwest MEC for an expedited decision process to replace the decision process contained in ALPA Merger Policy."[/font]

and don't forget:

"The issue for resolution before the Arbitrators will be the fair and equitable integration of the pre-merger Delta and Northwest seniority lists consistent with ALPA Merger and Fragmentation Policy ("ALPA Merger Policy"). "

 

[number11]

"simmer down there tough guy"

 

[DTW320]

The fact is as we sit here today, I'm a DAL employee and you are an employee of a DAL wholly owned subsidiary, just like CMR.

And that affects NWA pilots how?

BTW, you, a Delta employee and all, enjoy the same J/S priority on NWA as a Pinnacle/Compass/Mesaba new-hire RJ FO. Kinda demeaning for an employee of a company that "owns my aircraft" huh?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I think that the whole thing is BS about the J/S. I know why they are doing it. It is so that CMR and the other wholly owned do not have any legal maneuvering room to prove that they were not treated the same way the wholly owned subsidiary NWA, Inc. was.

 

[DTW320]

I think that the whole thing is BS about the J/S. I know why they are doing it. It is so that CMR and the other wholly owned do not have any legal maneuvering room to prove that they were not treated the same way the wholly owned subsidiary NWA, Inc. was.

It IS B.S. According to our J/S chairman, this will be changing soon....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Lets hope so. They are apples and oranges. I think you guys should ride on our priority and v/s.