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[Superpilot92]

don't know if your -9s are capable of heavier weights, but I flew the -9 in a previous life, and here at Delta on the 88, but very rarely have I been too heavy to SE taxi.

Where the ones you flew fully loaded -40's or -50's? They are typically the ones that are to heavy. Those are the majority of the DC9's now.

 

[Quimby]

Why are pilots so ********************ing stupid? Is it that hard to differentiate between lose and loose? Sorry. I had to get that off my chest.

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[michael707767]

Where the ones you flew fully loaded -40's or -50's? They are typically the ones that are to heavy. Those are the majority of the DC9's now.

Nope, never flew the -40 or -50, that's why I was asking.

 

[JAM-BRO]

The real headline would be more boring:

Delta Breaks Even
-loses 0.0042 on almost 10% higher revenue.

Still, it would have been nice to see that be a positive number. When you consider the size of oil shocks, crazy economic environment and distractions of a merger, not bad results. Clearly there is room for improvement.

Looking forward the merger will both be expensive and provide some low hanging fruit that Delta should be able to cut costs on. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but single engine taxiing, cross bleed starts, maintaining a clean drag profile on approaches, limiting APU usage, refinedments to aircraft utilization, traffic management and other programs that Delta has been emphasizing I don't think are used over at NWA, yet.

FIRST YOU WRITE THE CRAP ABOVE....

Anyone have the prognosis for NWA? I'm expecting break even, or a little profit.

I heard between 60-100 Million net profit

When the bubble between profit and loss goes to the third decimal point, it should make us all reflect how every little thing we do effects the overall outcome.

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DTW,

Thanks for the correction. One of the FAA folks from your certificate was on our jumpseat yesterday and commented that he had not seen nearly the number of single engine, crossbleed starts and other tasks put on the FO's at NWA that he was observing at Delta. He also commented that Delta typically got tied up with significantly longer taxi times because of ATL (which has not been running nearly as efficiently as it used to for some reason - I'd like to see the numbers) and JFK and LGA.

Looking through the NWA manuals, it appears most of what we do is the same, but Delta's got parts of your FOM spread across five different volumes and is a little harder, at first, to find.

THEN YOU MAKE THE STATEMENT HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE.

Thankfully, both airlines are AQP. Should help us get used to the "new" procedures, etc ...


WHICH ONE IS IT... DOES NWA HAVE FUEL SAVING PROGRAMS OR NOT? IT SEEMS YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR STATEMENTS. WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION, TO POKE EYES, MUDDY WATERS, ETC... DON'T BE SUCH A TOOL... IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE OR GOOD TO SAY, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.... SHEESH!!!!

 

[Superpilot92]

Nope, never flew the -40 or -50, that's why I was asking.

Hope that helped. :beer: Most of our taxi times are very short thus making it pointless to do it. However if we could, (weight wise) it was done especially after landing on the taxi in. Also in the summer its tough to keep the planes cool so having both engines on gives you the best chance at keeping the PAX's cool.

 

[Schwanker]

"But we are prepared to be a leader once again with capacity cuts if demand continues to deteriorate," he added.

"We're still finalizing our capacity plans for next year, monitoring demand at market level domestically and international, and will be taking that action as necessary at the first sign of weakness," Bastian said.

I'm surprised this hasn't been commented on. Hundreds of leaves granted and Bastian ready to pull the trigger on further reductions. Some have rumored hiring is at the doorstep. Makes one wonder which way this train is going.

Another note from a previous question, expect a profitable quarter from NWA to the tune of $60M+.

Schwanker

 

[ACL65PILOT]

From what I hear flight plan 09 is finalized.
I am sure that we will tweak a few things, as there will be delays with some new equipment.
They have not announced the planned hiring for a reason. It is ramping up, but like new airframes, it ain't official until the first one walk though the door.
I much prefer them not to hire, then to hire and have to furlough.
Heck last week there was some talk of displacements, this week they do not know. I guess we will find out on Friday if the A.E. actually comes out.

 

[General Lee]

"But we are prepared to be a leader once again with capacity cuts if demand continues to deteriorate," he added.

"We're still finalizing our capacity plans for next year, monitoring demand at market level domestically and international, and will be taking that action as necessary at the first sign of weakness," Bastian said.

I'm surprised this hasn't been commented on. Hundreds of leaves granted and Bastian ready to pull the trigger on further reductions. Some have rumored hiring is at the doorstep. Makes one wonder which way this train is going.

Another note from a previous question, expect a profitable quarter from NWA to the tune of $60M+.

Schwanker

Ed Bastain will be your CEO after the DCC until the SOC--or merging of certificates. I know we are short right now in a few categories, and will not displace in a few that we are fat because of the normal ramp up for Spring and Summer. It will be interesting.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[knightflyer]

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Lghtn up Frnsis...It's jst an ntrnet web brd.:bomb: :nuts:

 

[jetflier]

don't know if your -9s are capable of heavier weights, but I flew the -9 in a previous life, and here at Delta on the 88, but very rarely have I been too heavy to SE taxi.

NWA procedures are that with MGTW of 100000 or above, do not use SE taxi. Recently on our south concourse behind gate 27-31 the fence area has been damaged from break-away thrust.

Additionally, at the higher MGTW, in order to break away, you have to push the throttle up far enough to trip the pack override, and it shut's off the packs untill the throttle is retarded.

 

[ExAF]

Engine Warmup

I've never seen an NWA 757 or Airbus taxi out on a single engine...not once.

Every NWA 757 guy thinks that they are "too heavy." I wonder how quickly they'll learn that single engine breakaway thrust is minutely higher than two engine breakaway...

On the bus, the engines need to warm up for 5 min before takeoff. Much of the time our taxi out is only about 5 min, so no SE taxi. If a longer taxi is anticipated, we do it. Taxiing in is almost always SE unless we get to the gate before the 3 min cool down time is met.

 

[Quimby]

Lghtn up Frnsis...It's jst an ntrnet web brd.:bomb: :nuts:

rely? thnks fr tht...... dbg.

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[ACL65PILOT]

Almost like the 767. We can get away with 3 min unless it is a hard cold aircraft.

 

[michael707767]

NWA procedures are that with MGTW of 100000 or above, do not use SE taxi. Recently on our south concourse behind gate 27-31 the fence area has been damaged from break-away thrust.

Additionally, at the higher MGTW, in order to break away, you have to push the throttle up far enough to trip the pack override, and it shut's off the packs untill the throttle is retarded.

Fair enough. On the 88, as I said, very rarely have I had to use 2 engines for the weight. Maybe LGA or BOS in the summer and pushing max weight. Even at a pretty high weight I can get it going without tripping the packs. I don't remember having a problem on the DC-9-30. Is the thust/weight ratio on the 40/50 that much worse? What is the engine thrust and max TO weight on the 40 and 50. Thanks!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

On the bus, the engines need to warm up for 5 min before takeoff. Much of the time our taxi out is only about 5 min, so no SE taxi. If a longer taxi is anticipated, we do it. Taxiing in is almost always SE unless we get to the gate before the 3 min cool down time is met.

Where are ya'll flying to that the taxi times are so much shorter? I always see the busses in the same cities the 767 and 757 go to... We do 5 minute warmups preferred..they can be cut to 3 in most cases if needed.