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Airtran Union V.P. Abstains from Picket Vote

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Interesting. The Vice president of Airtrans pilot union ABSTAINED from a vote on: a motion to support and reactivate the SPC ( basically a strike etc. committee) and obtain Picketing Permits and pursue Family Awareness events.

I guess voting against the motion would have infuriated his fellow pilots. Voting for it would have infuriated management. Curious
 
Reactivate the strike committee? What do you mean RE-activate? Was it ever active? (honest question...)

Airtran cannot strike. They do not have the money to do it. management will easily win a strike by know how long to hold out on the NPA... they problem have it down to the hour of the day that an NPA strike would fall apart...

You can't negotiate that way... there is no leverage...



You guys need national resources!!


Here is an example....


The reason why Lorenzo was so effective at Texas Air was something called mutual aid. All the airline managements had agreed that if one carrier went on strike the other airlines would subsidize the loses.

Until the 1970s real airline men ran airlines. Patterson, Six, Rickenbacker, Cord, etc.. They didn't want a strike... But Lorenzo was the new guard and used mutual aid to break the unions...


The point... Lorenzo had "national' resources. A collective pool he could draw from. (shameless ALPA plug: ALPA lobbied for and had mutual aid removed from law)


Regional Airlines like Pinnacle received 2 million from national in support of the pilots in contract negotiations.


Unless you guys want heavy assessments. I mean heavy assessments... there is no way you guys are going to strike. No improvements. It is the status quo at airtran for the rest of your employment there...


Maybe the VP made a statement by abstention because reactivating the strike committee is a waste of time. Only after national resources are obtained is the idea of a strike committee worth discussing or voting...
 
Before we get all worked about something that we don't know much about (only one sentence from some rather thin meeting minutes), maybe we should actually talk to the NPA VP to see what his reasoning was. We shouldn't crucify the man before we hear his side of the story. I suggest posting it in the "Ask the VP" section of the NPA Forum. Maybe he'll respond there for everyone to see.
 
Before we get all worked about something that we don't know much about (only one sentence from some rather thin meeting minutes), maybe we should actually talk to the NPA VP to see what his reasoning was. We shouldn't crucify the man before we hear his side of the story. I suggest posting it in the "Ask the VP" section of the NPA Forum. Maybe he'll respond there for everyone to see.


Yes I agree but where do we as a pilot group draw the line and say hey maybe its time for a strong national union?? I mean NPA is to small and weak to handle the management at Airtran. Many others including I feel that its time for NPA to merge with someone like ALPA to finally get the backing we need to fight management. I mean our pilot group is strong and united, its the union that lacks the resources. I personally think if Mike Best had the resources of ALPA we would be in a different position, I think he knows it as well. But wont come out to support ALPA unless there is a movement from within the BOD as well as the pilot group.
 
Agree completely. Rez is absolutely right. We need national resources in order to have a real threat of a strike. It's going to take a large grass roots movement in order to make it happen, though.
 
Hey Rez,

Do you think Airtran should go ALPA?

Really?
 
ALPA would have the ability to strike, but never the guts. Different story, same ending.
 
ALPA would have the ability to strike, but never the guts. Different story, same ending.

Really? Tell that to the CAL, CMR, EAL, NWA, UAL, etc... ALPA pilots that have all struck.
 

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