Pilots at Airtran pick up open time???

[scarlet]

There have been many people picking up open time, as the company had many 90+ hour lines in sept as well !!! ?????????????? While alot of us lose our jobs and it ruins our credit!!!!!!!!!!!

Captain (deleted)is picking up trips in the right seat!!!!!!! TOTAL SCAB !!!!!!!

While 174 pilots are on the street as of tomorrow!!!

 

[Linedriver]

It will catch up with them. Can't get around the FAR's.

 

[boxlunch]

Scab leadership and plenty of scab captains. This doesn't surprise me. Is AP picking up as much time as posible in open time. Oh yeah I remember the loser captains saying we will upgrade in three years and they deserve the $30 raise and the new hires will get a $7 an hour pay cut and worse health insurance.
I'm sorry for all the FO's who have to fly with these Losers!!!!

I think every FO should be sick and tired of this BS. I know I will not be able to fly.

 

[meanstreak]

We need to start a list of who's doing this. I've overheard some guys saying there still going to pick up overtime regardless of the furloughs. I also know guys who kiss scheduling's ass and send them pizzas etc just to get trips. Pretty unbelievable.

 

[Networ-King]

This kind of sh!t happens EVERYWHERE...... My so called delta "brethren" flew in excess of 5000 hours of open time PER MONTH while we were all furloughed. Its messed up, but there is nothing thats going to stop these scabs from having their ME attitude throughout their careers.

You should hear my Jetblue buddies b!tching about the company NOT furloughing. I was shocked to hear this king of crap from these guys. They are getting their hours cut back to 70 hours and they think they "the senior guys" should be able to fly as much as they can while the junior guy gets furloughed.... Their reasoning was the fact that they don't make their "real" money till they break 70 hours..... unfreakingbelievable..... its a new era of selfishness out there....

Sorry to hear about your furloughs and good luck....

Net

ps Making a list means absolutely nothing, rememeber.... ALPO set a new precedent when they let all the CAL SCABS back into their little corrupt club.... So make all the lists that you want, but like I said before.... this is a new era of selfishness.....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

We need to start a list of who's doing this. I've overheard some guys saying there still going to pick up overtime regardless of the furloughs. I also know guys who kiss scheduling's ass and send them pizzas etc just to get trips. Pretty unbelievable.

Wow... even my regional has a policy of scheduling not accepting gifts....

Problem is... when you send a cheese pizza it only sets the base... next time you call sched will want a supreme pizza, then next month you gotta send two pizza....

Problem is... your fellow pilot keeps raising the ante....sending in better pizzas than you...

and you know someone is going to start spanking that fat chick scheduler..... so.... do YOU want to sleep with her to get the trips you want....

 

[ualdriver]

We have pilots here at United doing it as well (we call it JRM/SRM), and it's absolutely pathetic. It's a very professional cockpit (and that's it) when those losers fly with me.

I've come to the conclusion that there are a certain percentage of guys of any pilot group, no matter how unified you are, that are going to screw over their peers despite the obvious implications of their behavior. The best you can do is discuss it with them (without getting yourselves dragged into Court as we are) and hope they change their tune.

 

[likeitis]

There have been many people picking up open time, as the company had many 90+ hour lines in sept as well !!! ?????????????? While alot of us lose our jobs and it ruins our credit!!!!!!!!!!!

Captain (deleted)is picking up trips in the right seat!!!!!!! TOTAL SCAB !!!!!!!

While 174 pilots are on the street as of tomorrow!!!

Something or someone gave you an attitude adjustment. Bravo.

 

[fletch717]

We need to understand that the term "unified" only goes as far as how it affects us personally. When we vote yes or no on a contract we make our decision based on personal choice. If the entire pilot group votes no on a T/A we appear to be unified. In reality the T/A was bad for everyone. This is not the military; your leaders (management) are not looking after your well being. When I look at a vote my first thoughts are how does this affect me? I want every one to get a fair deal but a contract will never be all things to all people. The only time any group will be unified is when they are all getting screwed.

As far as pizza and personal favors, that is wrong.

 

[dh82dvr]

No open time pick up while a single pilot is on the street!!! Any extension is likely to cause personal hardship too.

 

[1800 RVR]

I agree with all of these guys. It happened to me at Midwest during my 1st furlough. As I was turning in my ID on the day of my furlough, there were pilots picking up opentime at the same time! I don't see this ever changing.

 

[AFcitrus]

This thread can be the official thread to list the names of the SOB's who pick up open time during these times. Just put their names, positions and airlines on this thread. Hopefully it will be a short thread but I doubt it.

I better not see a Captain showing up for my right seat who hasn't been displaced!!!! (and I know who they are)

 

[PCL_128]

ualdriver, the problem is that there are a lot more of the kind of guys that will do this sort of thing at AAI than at other carriers. At UAL, you have a small group that will do it, but we have a large number of them, especially on the Captain side.

 

[rajflyboy]

I keep telling you guys to clean up the A holes in your training department. They spread the Fud.

Get rid of them.

 

[easydoesit]

Just to clarify here...Swapping trips for different lengths of pairings or different days is ok. At the end of the month, one should have the same amount of flying they had at the beginning of the month. I pick up open time, but it is after I have dropped the trips I do not want.

I believe it is wrong to pick up any extra time.

Captains who are flying in the right seat ought to have something slashed in the parking lot when they get back from their trip.

 

[meanstreak]

I don't see his name on the displacement list.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

The AAI union leadership allowed the company to violate its own contact.

All training was contracted to be done by line pilots not contractors. But instead the union allowed management to disregard that provision because they threatened to fire instead of furlough the 180 pilots.

So the union allowed the contractors to remain in the training department and the FO were furloughed instead of fired. Nice.

Now the line pilots are making less because their not in the training department and the furloughed pilots don't have a legitimate lawsuit as they would have had if they had been fired without line pilots being put in the training department.

Airline union leadership is worthless.

 

[Lear70]

Scarlet, careful. You'll get a vacation (unpaid) from FlightInfo. One of the forum rules, can't list names here in a derogatory way.

Nothing stopping you from doing so on the internal boards, however. Feel free to post it on BD's board, I don't think he'd care, nor would the other mods (myself included). Something I think should happen sooner than later.

And yes, I've flown with that CA you're speaking of.

I have no heartburn if someone does a vertical trade or swaps some days around, as long as they don't vary a large amount (more than an hour or so) from their original Line Value. Guys and gals shouldn't have to suffer just because they weren't furloughed, but they shouldn't BENEFIT because people were furloughed and they can pad their wallet.

On a related note, I hope Christine Janning is on this board. SHE ROCKS! Other pilots should have the testicular fortitude that this girl exudes. Her husband should be proud of a wife being that dedicated to standing up for what is right, even if she's now the sole bread winner and has painted a target on herself!

"She flies, she fries... she's the queen of the skies!" (And I mean that affectionately).

 

[ualdriver]

ualdriver, the problem is that there are a lot more of the kind of guys that will do this sort of thing at AAI than at other carriers. At UAL, you have a small group that will do it, but we have a large number of them, especially on the Captain side.

Sorry to hear that...

 

[scarlet]

Yeah he was in right seat in AUG...??

I never said anything bad about him, just stated he was in the right seat......