Pinnacle Pilots - FLY SAFE

[hoover]

Other side of the coin

Does this mean that Pinncle pilots were not flying safe before? Were they flying sick? Ignoring maintenance problems? Not following the FOM?

Maybe there should be an investigation and some suspensions, terminiations, fines, or revocations.

 

[altimaklr]

The idea of "fly safe" doesn't resonate as well here at Pinnacle compared to ASA because SO many of our trips are either highspeeds or reduced rests. I have never met a captain willing to taxi at 2mph or wait 30 minutes on the ramp for numbers at the expense of missing the early employee parking bus/commute or 30 minutes less sleep at the hotel. ASA has many more long overnights, as well as high pay on highspeeds, so the similarities are not so similar.

As for calling sick, a large chunk of the FO's and many street captains are still on probation and not willing to risk getting cut for calling in sick multiple times. Fair or not, that's the way it is. The senior guys with nothing to lose (Mississippi flying club and the Minneapolis grandpas) often think life is fine and have no intention of rocking the boat.

 

[Jar Jar]

Whats with the trend of people spelling 'write' as 'right' lately??

 

[Flyer1015]

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[PCL_128]

Hey PCL_128 there was a Captain in MSP that got disciplined for calling in sick too many times. So it has happend, but the FAA hasn't been informed yet. My next carpet dance im going to bring a tape recorder...

Fellow 9E pilots, its time to FLY SAFE every flight.

If you're referring to a verbal warning, then that's not really what I mean by discipline. My employee file from Pinnacle is filled with probably a dozen verbal warning letters. I laughed each time they issued one. They don't mean jack, and they can't be forwarded in a PRIA check. Not a big deal. If you're talking about a suspension or other real discipline, then I highly doubt that.

 

[captainv]

Intimidation on sick calls is completely bogus. CMR did the same thing a while back. A few guys got sent to see an FAA doc after what the company felt were "suspicious" sick calls. Of course they got sent to the doc the next time they showed up to work, which by itself means you've already self-certified that you're well and ready to fly.

The guys that got tagged got pulled off their trips and pay-protected. What, like the doc can prove you weren't sick last week? Maybe you had a bad headache or intestinal problems that day.

Sure, there were a few guys that called in an awful lot. Don't want us to call in? Let me cash out my sick bank when I leave.

For those with recurring health problems, (bad back from swinging that heavy flight case perhaps) FMLA might be worth the trouble. Once the paperwork is done, you can call in whenever you want and they can't touch you...

Be safe!

 

[ex j-41]

Does this mean that Pinncle pilots were not flying safe before? Were they flying sick? Ignoring maintenance problems? Not following the FOM?

Maybe there should be an investigation and some suspensions, terminiations, fines, or revocations.

I think we all have been pressured to fly with an empty stomach. When you get 46 min break at an outstation the company has done what they needed to do contract wise with regard to a meal break.
You put fuel in the airplane and now it is time to fuel the pilots.
No more flying hungry! Simple

 

[MACH-TUCK]

If you're referring to a verbal warning, then that's not really what I mean by discipline. My employee file from Pinnacle is filled with probably a dozen verbal warning letters. I laughed each time they issued one. They don't mean jack, and they can't be forwarded in a PRIA check. Not a big deal. If you're talking about a suspension or other real discipline, then I highly doubt that.

Yeah I hear ya about the "letters of verbal warning" that show up via FedEx, those are all over in my file too. But this Captain im refering to was suspended for a couple of days for too many sick "days" in a revolving 12 months. So management has crossed the line and actually disciplined someone over sick calls. Which tells me they want pilots to fly sick and violate the FAR'S.

 

[Long Time Gone]

.....wait 30 minutes on the ramp for numbers.....

What kind of ACARS crap system are y'all using?

BTW, welcome to ATL. If you don't understand "y'all", you might want to move.

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah I hear ya about the "letters of verbal warning" that show up via FedEx, those are all over in my file too. But this Captain im refering to was suspended for a couple of days for too many sick "days" in a revolving 12 months. So management has crossed the line and actually disciplined someone over sick calls. Which tells me they want pilots to fly sick and violate the FAR'S.

Did he have union representation at his meeting, and did he grieve it? Let me guess: the letter was issued by Copilot Gary Beeks? That guy needs a lobotomy.

 

[Flyer1015]

Pathetic.... Pinnacle pilots were just issued a memo regarding the holiday weekend, and that anyone calling in sick will need to bring a doctors note.

You gotta love it, management treats us like 2nd graders. Anyone who is forced to bring in a doctors note should write the expense for the doctor visit and get the company to reimburse it! The company is forcing you to see a doctor (to get a doctor sick note), so THEY should pay for it.

Pinnacle managmeent (Phildo, CS, Doug 'the Barney' , etc) are all pathetic-worthless-scumbags.

 

[i fly boxes]

Today we had a light on the overhead panel burn out at an outstation. I didnt think it was safe to fly with that light burned out, so I wrote it up and unfortunately we were late by an hour. It also delayed the next 2 flights as well. I felt much safer with that 1 light working though and I am sure my passengers and company appreciated what i did because safety is the number one guiding principle

 

[Flyer1015]

memphis flying club

Haha. Yah right. The Memphis flying club are the biggest spineless pu$$ies you will fly with. Pro-company beotches.

 

[Rook]

What kind of ACARS crap system are y'all using?

BTW, welcome to ATL. If you don't understand "y'all", you might want to move.

You do remember that Express I was/is a MEM based company right?

 

[Smarta$$]

Haha. Yah right. The Memphis flying club are the biggest spineless pu$$ies you will fly with. Pro-company beotches.

How can you be pro-company, when they are taking money right out of your pocket.