WN to ground 190 flights

[Tanker Clown]

Boy, WN is looking more and more like a legacy. Aren't they still hiring? Talk about hire until you furlough. Looks like it's probably not too bright to hire folks and have them hit the line right before a 6% reduction in flying.

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

The real decision on Age 65 was made by your very own congressman who either voted "Yes" for it to pass or cared so little about your position that he didn't even bother to vote at all.

Same goes for your two Senators...

Soooo....in November, you gonna work on sending them back to DC ..for more?

Tejas Jet,

I’ve been living in Dallas for two decades so I’m very familiar with what’s happening over at LUV and SWAPA.

The problem is LUV became too much of a political powerhouse to overcome (especially in Texas). You had both Hutchison and Cornyn in your back pocket.

We tried to stop you guys from screwing the rest of us, but unfortunately for the rest of us, APA was unsuccessful.

The problem with the action, or in some cases inaction, for Age 65 you all took was the adverse effect it has on the rest of the industry. It was completely short sighted and arrogant on SWAPA’s part. We are only now starting to pay the price.

All I can say to all the guys losing their jobs and moving backwards across our profession – is we tried and keep the faith.

AA767AV8TOR

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Threads like this one always crack me up to see the same old swa skirts get their panties in a wad the second anyone posts anything negative about their company. The koolaid flows good.

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

You really need to get over it. That ship has sailed. Age 60 isn't ever coming back. All our careers have stagnated.

Does the phrase "Crying over spilled milk" sound familiar?

Does the phase – “We will never forget,” also sound familiar??!!

AA767AV8TOR

 

[Flopgut]

The real decision on Age 65 was made by your very own congressman who either voted "Yes" for it to pass or cared so little about your position that he didn't even bother to vote at all.

Same goes for your two Senators...

Soooo....in November, you gonna work on sending them back to DC ..for more?

I think you have no clue what you're talking about. It's painfully obvious you aren't part of ALPA, or any real union for that matter. Maybe you were more aware at one time? I would guess that would have to be the case because I've no idea how you made it to SWA.

If Swa is a great airline...it's in spite of the kind of employee you present yourself as. Age 65 to you is the equivilent of a CEO fashioning a golden parachute. Is that the sort of thing SWA mgt is known for?

Of course SWA is great and I'm sure this is somewhat routine. I hope you all take this chance to raise fares...a lot! (Let's all raise fares)

FACT: You made a golden parachute out of your coworkers' futures. Not a very SWA-like thing, do you think?

 

[General Lee]

Fact is guys, that if WN is taking these steps each and everyone of us needs to watch out. If they are cutting 190 flts how many more do you think the majors will cut? These are the guys that have the hedges. They can operate unprofitable flights, we cannot, yet we continue to.
Interesting times ahead.
I guess we will see if they expand internationally to offset the domestic capacity slump.

That's the key right there, they can't expand domestically because DOMESTICALLY things are in the toilet. That may be a little different internationally. In the Winter months a lot of people want to go somewhere warm, either Hawaii or the Carribean or Mexico, places Southwest does not fly to. Will they venture out there, or get more codeshares like the ones with Westjet? I think they are just hunkering down, and costs are kinda catching up with them a bit. At least they have the hedges....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[vixin]

BLAH BLAH GK said the same thing last year. Little or no growth...no hiring for 08...retiring planes faster then swa was taking them. I will believe it when I see it. While it may hold the smallest amount of truth. GK is also negotiating with three employee groups right now. Do you think this may a little to do with the doom and gloom. Like someone else said if SWA is doing this what will the others have to do? So look in the mirror buddy. You AA pukes are so fast to lay blame. 65 boo friggin whooo. Its done stop crying.

Flop,
Unfortunately an article in yesterday's Dallas morning rag. Said that SWA is reducing fares and that the others were going to have to match. SWA's schedule and fare structure just came out.

From the Company website last week.

Shouldering a New Schedule

You may have noticed some recent changes to your favorite early morning or late-night flight. Well, in addition to seasonal changes, Southwest's Schedule Planning Team has implemented "shoulder cuts" to our flight schedule.

Shoulder cuts are slight frequency changes within a schedule that last for a just a few weeks. They help curb unproductive flying, because they're typically used on early or late flights that are not forecasted to go out full. None of the affected markets will lose all the flight frequency; most will only see a small change. But the main advantage to implementing shoulder cuts is that during times of lower demand, we're able to save fuel and reduce unproductive flying. So if a Customer asks about a missing flight, it may not be gone for good. Shoulder cut flights will often come back into service when demand increases.

 

[sitnresrv]

Wow, someone's true character comes out when they feel criticized. Every other airline has been hammered on this message board and in many of those cases, rightfully so. Now here we have negative news from Southwest and someone posts a negative comment about them and everybody gets their panties in a bundle and rushes to criticize. He actually has a fact, although not so thoughtfully put, Southwest is starting to be negatively affected. I don't remember Southwest cutting 190 flights due to "winter schedule". The "winter schedule" is not the factor for these cuts, it is the terrible domestic market that has crushed the entire airline industry. All you that slammed him for his post are like the big bully that loves to dish it out but can't take it, especially when it is the truth.

 

[400ADude]

We'll see what happens. I think something big is up.

 

[Herkdrv]

Well, it took a few years, but like the rest of us, the economy and gas prices are finally catching up to you all. The chickens are finally come home to roost. Did you really think your growth could last forever??

How’s your decision on Age 65 looking now? Maybe you all can finally understand how Age 65 screwed the rest of us.

AA767AV8TOR

Dude did a SW pilot run off with you wife or something?

 

[Tanker Clown]

We'll see what happens. I think something big is up.

Rumor has it that there won't be any interviews for Sept and that they are going to ask for Vol LOAs.

 

[RedDogC130]

Tanker clown please get back in the snack room and clean the coffee pot for the col. Your 5 min break is up.

 

[400ADude]

Rumor has it that there won't be any interviews for Sept and that they are going to ask for Vol LOAs.

Not suprising.

Dumbsh1ts could have had their LOA's by trying to stop Age 65. Even if it was ALPA's doing the company was retarded as hell for supporting it.

I'm betting on the company asking for a healthy reduction for the ave monthly line TFP or how about 200-300 forloughs. What do you think the SWAPA membership vote would be for this.? I'm bettin on guys voting to forlough.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Tanker clown please get back in the snack room and clean the coffee pot for the col. Your 5 min break is up.

Check out the facts RetardedDog. 6% reduction in schedule. Continuing hiring of guys. Does it make sense to hire while you are getting ready to cut back on the schedule? Of course not. But, it's par for the course with airlines to hire till the furlough. Therefore, in the very near future, you are left with more pilots to split a smaller pie. That either means a furlough, a reduction in hours for folks, LOAs, or a combination of those aforementioned things.

Speaking of coffee, maybe you need to look into a job at Starbucks. You might be on the streets soon...or with any luck, you'll only have your hours cut. You might need the part time jobs to make ends meet.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Not suprising.

Dumbsh1ts could have had their LOA's by trying to stop Age 65. Even if it was ALPA's doing the company was retarded as hell for supporting it.

I'm betting on the company asking for a healthy reduction for the ave monthly line TFP or how about 200-300 forloughs. What do you think the SWAPA membership vote would be for this.? I'm bettin on guys voting to forlough.

Sounds like a wonderful pilot group.