Frontier Pilots, Is this true?

[stratus72]

Every possible scenario I can think of is bad, very bad. Especially considering the F9 BOD is basically powerless (more so than usual) during the BK process. The UCC has far more power, and they meet next week. F9 has exclusivity until the 24th, after that they need a renewal or someone can swoop in and pick us apart. F9's BOD has no choice in that matter, it is all up to the UCC and the judge.

We will see....hope you are looking for another job.

 

[sstearns2]

Lear,

Capitalism is GOOD! What will happen to F9 is what the markets dictate. I am not angry about the situation. This economy is just balancing out the industry. Or vice versa.

Just let the markets dictate the outcome. This is not a "I want to waive the BS flag" or "where people with his prep didn't get hired and his response was first-class, all the way" situation.

Just let it be, soon SWA will be the new hometown airline!

Guys like Chase does not fool me with their "sincere approach".

"WHO IS JOHN GALT?"

CYA

Who is capitalism good for again?

 

[AnimalTale]

Who is capitalism good for again?

GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, unless you want to be part of a Socialist society!

CYA

 

[Bavarian Chef]

We're still here... I think F9 is 50-50 as far as survival goes. RUMOR has it some good news is going to be announced after the BOD meeting this week. Yes, take that with a grain on salt.

You mean Denver will once again be spared this Hurricane Season?

I think that one was a gimme ...

 

[D-Bo]

GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, unless you want to be part of a Socialist society!

CYA

Not saying I'm for or against, and not trying to make this personal, but most of the folks that speak in opposition to socialism are the very ones that would benefit from such a system. In other words, most folks who are against have an illusion of where they fall in he socio-economic makeup up this country. They think that they are in the top 1% which means something. But not nearly as much as they think.

I'm not trying to make this a discussion on socialism. I'm speaking about how we generally view foreign things.

Also, back when it was popular to down someone by calling them a commie, most of the folks who used the term never fully realized what communism was. They didn't truly understand it. Not speaking about the pros and cons of it, but the opposition to it.

 

[NuGuy]

Not saying I'm for or against, and not trying to make this personal, but most of the folks that speak in opposition to socialism are the very ones that would benefit from such a system. In other words, most folks who are against have an illusion of where they fall in he socio-economic makeup up this country. They think that they are in the top 1% which means something. But not nearly as much as they think.

I'm not trying to make this a discussion on socialism. I'm speaking about how we generally view foreign things.

Also, back when it was popular to down someone by calling them a commie, most of the folks who used the term never fully realized what communism was. They didn't truly understand it. Not speaking about the pros and cons of it, but the opposition to it.

Meh, I wish that every nit-wit liberal and/or Hollywood type that promised to move to another country if something didn't go their way had done so.

It could have raised the collective IQ of the US a notch or two, but then again, we'd be accused of dumping our trash overseas again.

Just can't win...

Nu

 

[The Prussian]

Heyas....right on!!!

 

[Max Powers]

Meh, I wish that every nit-wit liberal and/or Hollywood type that promised to move to another country if something didn't go their way had done so.

It could have raised the collective IQ of the US a notch or two, but then again, we'd be accused of dumping our trash overseas again.

Just can't win...

Nu

I wish NU would leave, I know of a great place where he would fit in called Sadr City.

Look inequality is very important in a capitalistic society like ours. But this inequality has gone so far as to be unethical, immoral and downright bad for business.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/186625_incomegap17.html

 

[Max Powers]

GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, unless you want to be part of a Socialist society!

CYA

You mean like Norway?.....One of the richest countries in the world. Yes they pay high taxes but, income after taxes is still way above ours. Longer life spans. Less money spent on health care which is fully covered by the govt. Oh and they have plenty of gas but they tax it so much people don't wast it by driving SUVs or the likes and therefore are completely independent of needing middle east oil.

Meanwhile - we are all working ourselves to death, so we can fill our 16 mpg SUVs with gas. Meanwhile, the Saudis then take the profits and buy up the assets of our country. We are sending these oil rich countries over 2% of our GDP ever year. Only a matter of time till our debt and other problems catch up to us; great planning Mr. Bush!!! Whats Mcain's great answer: drill more. Nope that won't help either, our biggest oil reserve is located in our driveways!!!! Support a gas tax so we can decrease oils demand.

 

[AnimalTale]

Not saying I'm for or against, and not trying to make this personal, but most of the folks that speak in opposition to socialism are the very ones that would benefit from such a system. In other words, most folks who are against have an illusion of where they fall in he socio-economic makeup up this country. They think that they are in the top 1% which means something. But not nearly as much as they think.

I'm not trying to make this a discussion on socialism. I'm speaking about how we generally view foreign things.

Also, back when it was popular to down someone by calling them a commie, most of the folks who used the term never fully realized what communism was. They didn't truly understand it. Not speaking about the pros and cons of it, but the opposition to it.

Not personal but there is some truth to what you say except if you have some time read a book by Ayn Rand called "Anthem". It is very short (60 pages). If u like it get "FOUNTAIN HEAD" and then read "ATLAS SHRUGGED".

Tell me what u think in a PM. I believe in a balance because too much capitalism breeds greed and too much socialism breeds communism.

BTW, those books are pretty good. They are fiction based on some truth.

CYA

 

[AnimalTale]

You mean like Norway?.....One of the richest countries in the world. Yes they pay high taxes but, income after taxes is still way above ours. Longer life spans. Less money spent on health care which is fully covered by the govt. Oh and they have plenty of gas but they tax it so much people don't wast it by driving SUVs or the likes and therefore are completely independent of needing middle east oil.

Meanwhile - we are all working ourselves to death, so we can fill our 16 mpg SUVs with gas. Meanwhile, the Saudis then take the profits and buy up the assets of our country. We are sending these oil rich countries over 2% of our GDP ever year. Only a matter of time till our debt and other problems catch up to us; great planning Mr. Bush!!! Whats Mcain's great answer: drill more. Nope that won't help either, our biggest oil reserve is located in our driveways!!!! Support a gas tax so we can decrease oils demand.

Then go live in Norway. Enjoy.

CYA

 

[Max Powers]

Then go live in Norway. Enjoy.

CYA

Wish I could my man but I'm an American citizen so I shall work on changing this place one idiot at a time.

 

[MountainFreak]

Not personal but there is some truth to what you say except if you have some time read a book by Ayn Rand called "Anthem". It is very short (60 pages). If u like it get "FOUNTAIN HEAD" and then read "ATLAS SHRUGGED".

Tell me what u think in a PM. I believe in a balance because too much capitalism breeds greed and too much socialism breeds communism.

BTW, those books are pretty good. They are fiction based on some truth.

CYA

I concur about Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. I don't really believe in Rand's theories much, but her books are great and they make you think.

Also agree about needing a balance. You need personal incentive for capitalism, but you need to keep the greedy airline CEO's in check too

 

[Cornelius]

Norway gets all there money from oil rigs off their coast lines so they can do whatever they want. The Us economy is in shambles, wait a minute I thought we were talking about F9.

 

[NuGuy]

Norway gets all there money from oil rigs off their coast lines so they can do whatever they want. The Us economy is in shambles, wait a minute I thought we were talking about F9.

WAIT? WHAT! Drilling off the coast? How dare they! Think of the seals!!!

Nu

 

[kc81900]

You mean like Norway?.....One of the richest countries in the world. Yes they pay high taxes but, income after taxes is still way above ours. Longer life spans. Less money spent on health care which is fully covered by the govt. Oh and they have plenty of gas but they tax it so much people don't wast it by driving SUVs or the likes and therefore are completely independent of needing middle east oil.

Meanwhile - we are all working ourselves to death, so we can fill our 16 mpg SUVs with gas. Meanwhile, the Saudis then take the profits and buy up the assets of our country. We are sending these oil rich countries over 2% of our GDP ever year. Only a matter of time till our debt and other problems catch up to us; great planning Mr. Bush!!! Whats Mcain's great answer: drill more. Nope that won't help either, our biggest oil reserve is located in our driveways!!!! Support a gas tax so we can decrease oils demand.

Holy Crap I can't believe what I am reading. Tax us more and that will answer all of our problems. When and where has the goverment ever been the answer. When has the gov't ever spent a dime efficiently. You honestly think giving the gov't more $$$$ and let them take over our health care fuel usage etc... is going to work. You obviously went to a liberal college and were taught by professors that never held a real job. They never worked in the free market system and think all things work according to theory. Communism does not work and socialism doesn't work either. They only produce stagnation and mediocre results.

And such talk so near the fourth of July shame on you.

 

[kc81900]

Wish I could my man but I'm an American citizen so I shall work on changing this place one idiot at a time.

Start with yourself. All should fall into place after that.

 

[clippyrip]

Socialism doesn't work either. They only produce stagnation and mediocre results.

How about the police force and the fire department? They are socialism at work and most don't complain about them. Matter of fact, I think we would be fine with a few less cops. Hows that for shrinking government....

 

[yellowfever]

You mean like Norway?.....One of the richest countries in the world. Yes they pay high taxes but, income after taxes is still way above ours. Longer life spans. Less money spent on health care which is fully covered by the govt. Oh and they have plenty of gas but they tax it so much people don't wast it by driving SUVs or the likes and therefore are completely independent of needing middle east oil.

Meanwhile - we are all working ourselves to death, so we can fill our 16 mpg SUVs with gas. Meanwhile, the Saudis then take the profits and buy up the assets of our country. We are sending these oil rich countries over 2% of our GDP ever year. Only a matter of time till our debt and other problems catch up to us; great planning Mr. Bush!!! Whats Mcain's great answer: drill more. Nope that won't help either, our biggest oil reserve is located in our driveways!!!! Support a gas tax so we can decrease oils demand.

I think natural resources have more to do with their wealth than their government. We have a much larger country in terms of square miles and have a much larger population. They have to travel what....200 miles to cross their country. Not as much need for oil, yet they drill lots of oil per capita. Way to blame it on the president though...nice!

 

[USMC319]

Dear Frontier Pilots,

One of my FOs told me a story from one of his F9 buddies that Frontier's financial health is so dire they have begun asking pilots to put hotel costs for company overnights on their own private credit cards in some instances and will be reimbursed later. The story was that hotels were no longer honoring the F9 contracts as they feared they would not get paid if they went Ch 9 (which would occur if they did go Ch 9).
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Chase,

Did you forget to log-off? This is nothing but pure flame-bait, and I know you are a better man than that. You know better than to post this kind of garbage.