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Form 10-Q/A for PINNACLE AIRLINES CORP RE Colgan Air

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Not true. All the US air flying falls into this category. Continental EWR, IAH, and I think the United flying, is pay for departure.

The only capacity purchase agreement Colgan has is the Q400s for Continental. The rest is all pro rate or EAS service. Reference page 13 of the 10Q.
 
Not true. All the US air flying falls into this category. Continental EWR, IAH, and I think the United flying, is pay for departure.


Not true, Saabs are pro-rated contracts. Which is why they are loosing money. We pay for fuel and loads aren't enough to pay costs. We went to USAir to raise the fees with the pro-rate agreement and they said no, hence why we dropped service. Only the Qs are Fee for Departure.

Which is why if oil keeps going up Colgan is big trouble.
 
Your absolutely correct....Now can you convince Rez and PCL128?

ummm are you forgetting that ALPA is not a true union?? it is an association built out of individual subgroups run by their own local members. A true union would have all members on one seniority/call out list governed by the national unions work rules and policies. Locals in most if not all of the labor unions are simply barganing agents for their geographic location.

ALPA national is simply a store that the various airlines pilot groups can shop for the services they need. Are you going on strike?? ALPA*Mart aisle 2 is where you find the strike preparedness folks. Trying to find out some EF&A information?? ALPA*Mart aisle 12 is where the economics folks live.
 
ummm are you forgetting that ALPA is not a true union?? it is an association built out of individual subgroups run by their own local members. A true union would have all members on one seniority/call out list governed by the national unions work rules and policies. Locals in most if not all of the labor unions are simply barganing agents for their geographic location.

ALPA national is simply a store that the various airlines pilot groups can shop for the services they need. Are you going on strike?? ALPA*Mart aisle 2 is where you find the strike preparedness folks. Trying to find out some EF&A information?? ALPA*Mart aisle 12 is where the economics folks live.

I'm not forgetting that....you are absolutely correct!
 
ummm are you forgetting that ALPA is not a true union?? it is an association built out of individual subgroups run by their own local members. A true union would have all members on one seniority/call out list governed by the national unions work rules and policies.

Unfortunately, pilots as a whole will never be smart enough to surrender our autonomy. We pilots know more than anyone after all, right? How dare anyone come in and tell me whats right and how could I ever expected to stand by quietly while someone else mettles in my affairs.

For the same reason Joe can't keep his treasonous mouth shut, ALPA will never achieve its potential.
 
Unfortunately, pilots as a whole will never be smart enough to surrender our autonomy. We pilots know more than anyone after all, right? How dare anyone come in and tell me whats right and how could I ever expected to stand by quietly while someone else mettles in my affairs.

For the same reason Joe can't keep his treasonous mouth shut, ALPA will never achieve its potential.

Treason?? Is that what questioning ALPA is now....Treason?

ALPA will never achieve it's potential because of the autonomy you speak of and because it is run by politicians like Rez and PCL128....

DoinTime....what is your vision of ALPA "achieving it's potential"? Tell us how it should work....

Treason.....that's good.....:rolleyes:
 
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Hey Joe,

could you summarize for me: if somebody asked you what your bottom line opinion of ALPA/unions are in the airline business, what is your whole beef about? And what about REZ/PCL? What is the one-liner that defines you 3 guys' opinions? I don't have time to read 14,000 posts to figure it out
 
Hey Joe,

could you summarize for me: if somebody asked you what your bottom line opinion of ALPA/unions are in the airline business, what is your whole beef about? And what about REZ/PCL? What is the one-liner that defines you 3 guys' opinions? I don't have time to read 14,000 posts to figure it out

Either we are together as one....Or we are separate and doing what is best for each of us.....

That about sums it for me....
 
Treason?? Is that what questioning ALPA is now....Treason?

Joe, you do not question ALPA. With your every breath you spew anti-ALPA rhetoric, incite rebellion, and foster division. That is treason. Not only towards ALPA but towards our profession.
 
Joe, you do not question ALPA. With your every breath you spew anti-ALPA rhetoric, incite rebellion, and foster division. That is treason. Not only towards ALPA but towards our profession.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

They taught us that at ALPA leadership training in Herndon also.....They taught us not to ever question ALPA in public...little role playing skit with Beebe and a few others.....The funny thing is that 2 of the role playing actors were USAir ALPA folks....worked real well for them....

I don't "incite rebellion" or "foster division"....ALPA does a fine job of that by dividing pilots as "regional" and "mainline".....I just question authority....It is healthy to question authority....
 

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