NWA/DELTA Joint Contract

[Superpilot92]

If DALALPA really wants whats best for both groups like some of the DAL guys say then i ask this question. Do you think DALALPA would stand up to DAL mgmt if they try and drag this out? Do you think DALALPA will stand with NWALAPA if DAL mgmt wants to hold NWA pilots back over time? I hope so. That will be where DALALPA to show what their real intentions are and I hope we can get this done together. We shall see. NWALPA and Pilots wont sit back and let it happen anyway but i has the questions for you DAL guys.

 

[PuffDriver]

If DALALPA really wants whats best for both groups like some of the DAL guys say then i ask this question. Do you think DALALPA would stand up to DAL mgmt if they try and drag this out? Do you think DALALPA will stand with NWALAPA if DAL mgmt wants to hold NWA pilots back over time? I hope so. That will be where DALALPA to show what their real intentions are and I hope we can get this done together. We shall see. NWALPA and Pilots wont sit back and let it happen anyway but i has the questions for you DAL guys.

Yes, Yes.

There is a caveat, DALPA will also not put up with the same BS they have been putting up with regarding the NWALPA SLI proposals. The MEC is genuine in everything they put out. They are tiring of the crap coming from the other side, until lately. Things seem to be calming down, and quieting down, from the NWA MEC

 

[DTW320]

Yes, Yes.

There is a caveat, DALPA will also not put up with the same BS they have been putting up with regarding the NWALPA SLI proposals. The MEC is genuine in everything they put out. They are tiring of the crap coming from the other side, until lately. Things seem to be calming down, and quieting down, from the NWA MEC

You're Hilarious.

Sorry that DALPA has had to put up with the BS of NALPA insisting on a fair SLI. I know.....BS isn't it?

"Hey, ___________(insert military call sign here), this is BS from them!!" "You're right__________(insert other military call sign here)
!!!" (executes high five with ________)

How 'bout the "BS" of DAL coming up with 3 measly negotiating days in June? Will DALPA put up with that BS? Guess someone doesn't really think they need to get this done quickly huh? Why would that be? Hmmmmmm

We have a little "caveat" for you too.

 

[slapstick]

it doesn't sound to me like the DL mgmt wants this to drag out at all... quite the contrary.

 

[FDJ2]

If DALALPA really wants whats best for both groups like some of the DAL guys say then i ask this question. Do you think DALALPA would stand up to DAL mgmt if they try and drag this out?

Superpilot, just remember that it's our contract too.

Do you think DALALPA will stand with NWALAPA if DAL mgmt wants to hold NWA pilots back over time? I hope so. That will be where DALALPA to show what their real intentions are and I hope we can get this done together.

It's not all about NWA pilots. It's a joint contract, we'd like some improvements too, and don't be too judgmental, as if the Delta pilots have to prove something to the NWA pilots, because we don't. NALPA will not dictate the negotiating process anymore than DALPA will.

We shall see. NWALPA and Pilots wont sit back and let it happen anyway but i has the questions for you DAL guys.

I has the answers. It's a joint negotiation for a joint contract. You wont sit back and let it happen, but you also wont dictate the agenda or the strategies in the negotiations with management. At the end of the day a joint TA will have to have something in there that both pilot groups want and find acceptable for our joint contract and it will be ratified by both memberships. JMHO

 

[PuffDriver]

You're Hilarious.

Sorry that DALPA has had to put up with the BS of NALPA insisting on a fair SLI. I know.....BS isn't it?

"Hey, ___________(insert military call sign here), this is BS from them!!" "You're right__________(insert other military call sign here)
!!!" (executes high five with ________)

How 'bout the "BS" of DAL coming up with 3 measly negotiating days in June? Will DALPA put up with that BS? Guess someone doesn't really think they need to get this done quickly huh? Why would that be? Hmmmmmm

We have a little "caveat" for you too.

Wasn't talking about the SLI, I was talking about the trash talk. Nice to see that you are prewired to fire though. Tells me where you are coming from. You need to throttle back. It's only june. No sense in blowing a gasket on monday.

As far as caveat, I think the key word in that sentence it "little"

 

[Superpilot92]

I dont know if you misunderstood my post or maybe i didn't present the question properly. I was just asking what would the DALALPAs stance be IF we (NWALPA and DALALPA) come to a joint contract and present it to mgmt only to have mgmt drag their feet with approving it? What then would DALALPAs stance be? Would they stand with us until DAL mgmt approved it or would they let DAL mgmt attempt to bring us up in "Harmonization" over time?

 

[tomgoodman]

A big "if"

it doesn't sound to me like the DL mgmt wants this to drag out at all... quite the contrary.

Yes, if management is telling the truth about the massive economic benefits they expect from a completed merger, then "dragging it out" would make no sense at all.

 

[800Dog]

I dont know if you misunderstood my post or maybe i didn't present the question properly. I was just asking what would the DALALPAs stance be IF we (NWALPA and DALALPA) come to a joint contract and present it to mgmt only to have mgmt drag their feet with approving it? What then would DALALPAs stance be? Would they stand with us until DAL mgmtapproved it or would they let DAL mgmt attempt to bring us up in "Harmonization" over time?

I can only speak for myself. I would stand behind you guys and take whatever actions were necessary to get the deal done in a timely manner. NWA pilots are not my enemy, management is. For those who have forgotten this, read the bankruptcy transcripts!

 

[Superpilot92]

I can only speak for myself. I would stand behind you guys and take whatever actions were necessary to get the deal done in a timely manner. NWA pilots are not my enemy, management is. For those who have forgotten this, read the bankruptcy transcripts!

Thanks for the response. Its nice to see a rational and logical response. We should be standing side by side but unfortunately we are pinning ourselves against on another as opposed to working together either with or against mgmt. :beer:

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Bingo brotha. I am hearing that the joint agreement leapfrogs loa19 and is closer to the feb agreement. What are y'all hearing? Looking forward to getting this behind us and moving forward.

I can only speak for myself. I would stand behind you guys and take whatever actions were necessary to get the deal done in a timely manner. NWA pilots are not my enemy, management is. For those who have forgotten this, read the bankruptcy transcripts!

 

[FDJ2]

I dont know if you misunderstood my post or maybe i didn't present the question properly. I was just asking what would the DALALPAs stance be IF we (NWALPA and DALALPA) come to a joint contract and present it to mgmt only to have mgmt drag their feet with approving it? What then would DALALPAs stance be? Would they stand with us until DAL mgmtapproved it or would they let DAL mgmt attempt to bring us up in "Harmonization" over time?

We'll be on the same side of the table with NALPA so we'll be there with you and you'll be there with us. If DAL management jumps on our (DALPA/NALPA) first proposal, fantastic, but what if they don't?

Then what?

We (DALPA/NALPA) get together and analyze managements proposal, construct a counter proposal and continue to work together on developing a joint strategy to get it done.

DALPA's stated goal is immediate parity. That's our goal, that's what we want.

 

[FDJ2]

Bingo brotha. I am hearing that the joint agreement leapfrogs loa19 and is closer to the feb agreement. What are y'all hearing? Looking forward to getting this behind us and moving forward.

We are all loooking forward to getting this behind us and the entire process too.

JMHO, but I think when management signed LOA19, they knew this was just part of the deal and held some back in reserve for the joint contract. They're not fools, they knew that we (DALPA/NALPA) would be back for a joint contract.

 

[Schwanker]

We are all loooking forward to getting this behind us and the entire process too.

JMHO, but I think when management signed LOA19, they knew this was just part of the deal and held some back in reserve for the joint contract. They're not fools, they knew that we (DALPA/NALPA) would be back for a joint contract.

If they don't sign a joint contract, I expect it could be one of the most expensive mistakes they could make.

Schwanker

 

[Occam's Razor]

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Beam me up, Scotty! There's no sign of intelligent life here!