CAL to furlough

[Ex737Driver]

We would have made 129 million net 1Q if it wasn't for the LHR slots we purchased.

uhhh...So you're saying that CAL included the entire purchase price of the slots in one Q? you sure about that?

Our first quarter loss was 60M for operations and a special charge for 20M for the way CAL figures income taxes, give or take a few million. We began to make a change in the fourth quarter and the charge was spread between the two.

 

[Fubijaakr]

thanks for the RUMOR

and thanks AGE 65!

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

 

[Phrogs4ever]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

That legislation didn't extend s**t! My plan is still on track to be out the door by 57.

Quote on the new atis cards:

"Flying airplanes is not a retirement plan!"

Enjoy your "retirement".

 

[Avi8tor2000]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

None of us want our careers extended 5 more years, old senile man. Not all of us have 3 alimonies. A 401k and a Roth wisely invested for my 39 year airline career would have been plenty. You got your break from guys retiring at 60 just like everyone before you. Had your cake and ate it too.

 

[CA1900]

I didn't see a post by that dumb bicth.

I believe that was a pre-emptive shhhhh.

 

[AWACoff]

Due to lower earnings because of a later upgrade, we HAVE to work 5 additional years to make the same career earnings as we would have with age 60. It's called compound interest. Look it up when you're "irregularity" occurs again and you're on the crapper for 45 minutes. Bran is good.

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

 

[momalley81]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

Someone here doesn't understand Compound Interest.

No wonder pilots make such lousy investors.

 

[tmac3333]

I didn't see a post by that dumb bicth.

Just beating her to the punch. Thanks CA1900.

 

[IslandDriver]

anyone know how far back 200 furloghs would go...date of hire.

I have a few friends there hired in the last year to year and a half........hope they are OK

 

[SuperFLUF]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

How pompus of you to think that those you threw under the bus to cover your inadequate planning actually want to work more for less.

Your few words reveal much. Thanks. Thanks a whole lot.

 

[SuperFLUF]

anyone know how far back 200 furloghs would go...date of hire.

I have a few friends there hired in the last year to year and a half........hope they are OK

I can't access the online seniority list right now but 200 furloughs would go back about 6 to 8 months.

IF, the 54 aircraft parked in the fall doesn't include aircraft reductions allready accounted for in the Jan bid there MIGHT be a reduction. The last bid (Jan 08) had 205 vacancies for new hires. I don't think we've hired near that many pilots since then and that bid accounted for some aircraft reductions.

 

[pipejockey]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

Gee, who do I thank for the privilege of working to 65 now? Anyone who makes it to 60 and still wants any part of this industry has a giant hole in their head and is not fit to fly anyway! All we need is our earning power of the 1990s back and there is no reason we can't plan for a 60 retirement.

 

[Captain Overs]

Yawn! Yes the shroud of doom and gloom has descended. The training department guys are hearing things!

Why stop at 500! Tell them the one about 800 furloughs that some scabby capt told me last week!

Why worry about it. You've got such a great deal to go fly COPA.

 

[regionaltard]

I didn't see a post by that dumb bicth.

A little respect, please. Terminal FPBD is no laughing matter.

 

[Patriot328]

Overheard from the 756 fleet manager: Worst case scenario for the July bid (worst case meaning no COLAs or early outs): Everyone hired in the last year furloughed (about 250 or so).

Impression was that was a very fluid statement (I don't think anyone really knows for sure what's going on). I wouldn't hold it as a firm number by any means.



I have to point out, though. We were supposed to have 250-300 retirements this year at CAL. How fitting they're toying with the idea of furloughing the same number.

Over 60 guys, make sure you at least buy your FO dinner before he gets the ax. It's the least you could do.

 

[Flopgut]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

This thread is about [possible] furloughs, not upgrades. There's a significant difference. Although I'm sure it doesn't matter to you.

 

[learflyer]

I am in training at CAL right now.

Every time I get a V1 cut and crash the sim off the jacks, my instructor says,"F*#K!" and then he has to "throw around" numbers like V2 and V2+15 because I am too hungover to remember what to do next if I can ever get the plane under control when he fails one.

So, yeah lots of "F" words and numbers being thrown around where I am coming from.


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

Can't you do a V1 cut?

 

[Guam360]

Can't you do a V1 cut?

of course he can, but didn`t you read, he was too HUNG OVER. sounds reasonable to me.

Ben, don`t seat it, everyone says F%ck here and V1 cut, it is cake with three engines, plus we are at 9 month upgrades.

 

[BigMeat]

Age 65 extended YOUR career 5 years, too, slick. Of course, you seem to be strictly worried about your upgrade.

Gear up, sonny.

Extended my career? How about I fly airplanes so I can live my life. Not I live my life so I can fly airplanes. I know too many of you aviation dorks. If I won a couple of mil. today I would be gone...Next thing that you old crusties are going to want is life support in the a/c. Dont get me wrong I enjoy my job more than most, its still a job.

 

[Palomino]

This thread is about [possible] furloughs, not upgrades. There's a significant difference. Although I'm sure it doesn't matter to you.

precisely.

potentially thousands of pilots could hit the street while others get to add to their stash due to a recent age change.

i don't like that. you won't sway my opinion on it. call me 'sonny' or whatever other derogatory and childish name that you wish. i don't need to hear about paying dues either. i've been thru plenty and have plenty more to add as time goes by. i'm aware.

i could care less about flying to age 65. frankly i think i'll barely be able to tolerate going to age 60. but i don't need much to enjoy life. i'll find something else to fulfill my needs.

i hope ALPA National aggressively provides for the large number of furloughs that will result from this latest downturn. i will vote for anything to provide for those on the street while i still have a job and a vote as a union member.