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YOU are the PIC and YOU will be held accountable ultimately.

That was my main point, and yes LJDRVR, I am an arrogant D-Weed.

But seriously, the key words are UNKNOWN and PROBLEM.

You know you have a problem, but you don't know what it is, or more importantly...WHAT IT MIGHT TURN INTO.

Thats the "gotcha'" the Feds are going to use.

If ultimately nothing else goes awry you are okay...If something else arises as a result of the first problem and the scenario worsens YOU will be held accountable and the questions will be:

" So Captain, you felt it was prudent and cautious to continue flying an aircraft, that you knew had some sort of a problem, which you could not identify? Ultimately resulting in ( insert bad thing here ). Wouldn't it have been better to land and find out what you were really dealing with? "

I have seen this scenario way too many times:

Pilots calling Mommy (The Company), asking what to do, and deferring their ultimate responsibility to others on the ground.

In the end YOU will be held ultimately responsible for whatever happens.

And , yes, I would have just landed overweight on a nice long runway and written my Report .

Thank you.

YKMKR
 
If the crew knew the panel was missing would they go TransAtlantic?



Land at JFK under MLW, inspect plane...

HOLY SHAT! a panel is missing.....

fix plane and/or rebook pax....


now..... was that so hard?
 
If William Shatner was on board and having a nervous breakdown I would have landed.

/there, fixed it for ya
//you're welcome
///I'm old school

I was referring to the Twilight Zone movie where the flying monster was tearing panels off the airplane and only Lithgow could see it.
 
I've held the opinion for a long time than AA crews might be a little quick to divert for possible mx issues.

MIA is the most radical base in...well, the WORLD.

Those two items tell me that there was no indication that would mandate a diversion or RTB.

If I diverted every time a FA heard a strange noise, I'd have to work till 70 to make up for the lost pay!

And, the FAA will prosecute them to the fullest extent, Monday-morning-QB'ing (at least to the extent their limited experience will permit...) all the way because we all know how closely the FAA is monitoring the airlines, right? TC

P.S.: Whataburger--Quit whining. If that lovefest you have with management ever ends, we'll understand when YOU decide to 'send a message'. Ok?

Besides, since Redding sold all our parts, we're rollin' on cheap retreads. Wouldn't want any 'road-agators' fouling the runway at PHX and FOD'ding out our precious JT-8's, would we...
 
I've held the opinion for a long time than AA crews might be a little quick to divert for possible mx issues.

MIA is the most radical base in...well, the WORLD.

Those two items tell me that there was no indication that would mandate a diversion or RTB.

If I diverted every time a FA heard a strange noise, I'd have to work till 70 to make up for the lost pay!

And, the FAA will prosecute them to the fullest extent, Monday-morning-QB'ing (at least to the extent their limited experience will permit...) all the way because we all know how closely the FAA is monitoring the airlines, right? TC

P.S.: Whataburger--Quit whining. If that lovefest you have with management ever ends, we'll understand when YOU decide to 'send a message'. Ok?

Besides, since Redding sold all our parts, we're rollin' on cheap retreads. Wouldn't want any 'road-agators' fouling the runway at PHX and FOD'ding out our precious JT-8's, would we...

Bashing another guy about a lovefest? And then a captain gets overridden by a management type. Classic.
 
I was referring to the Twilight Zone movie where the flying monster was tearing panels off the airplane and only Lithgow could see it.

So was Tailgunner.

Lithgow reprised the original Twilight Zone episode that was performed by Bill Shatner.....ergo Tailgunner's "old school" comment.
 
I love the part in the article where the source who was not on the flight described the flight as bumpy! Gee really, a flight across the north atlantic bumpy? so it isnt so!!! not only does mesa suck, but the media sucks!
 

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