US Airways May 12th class

[Dr. Rumack]

Oh, is that what would have happened? Thanks. I've been wondering if someone on the Internet could clear this mystery up for all of us since, you know, U's been going out of business for 20 years or more. Finally, someone willing to come forward with a "statement of fact" on the topic!

I guess you did not listen to the conference call as that may have helped you 'clear the mystery'. The CEO was pretty descriptive as to the situation out east before the merge. I believe he said either 'days from' or 'on the brink of liquidation' but I do not want to misquote; please go back and listen for yourself.

 

[Carl S.]

Being on the "Brink of liquidation" in BK II with under 20 spectacular widebodies and the bottom pilot with 18 years LOS was viewed as better career expectations than a solvent company with a posssible future cash short fall projected by the USCABIANS! Sort of like your house in a 4 alarm fire and a book of matches on the table in the other house. East pilots are so out of finanical touch it's so funny.

 

[Colonel Savage]

The CEO was pretty descriptive as to the situation out east before the merge. I believe he said either 'days from' or 'on the brink of liquidation'...

So why buy a company that was in that kind of shape? It makes no sense business wise.

"Captain, that would be highly illogical.", I believe is the expression.

 

[j32wreck]

cheaper to buy the turd than get into bidding for dingleberries. AWA was looking to expand and this was the cheapest way.

 

[AutoBus]

So why buy a company that was in that kind of shape? It makes no sense business wise.

"Captain, that would be highly illogical.", I believe is the expression.

It make a lot of sense, for the same reason you would go to a foreclosure auction, you might get something cheap.

 

[Colonel Savage]

...AWA was looking to expand and this was the cheapest way.

Well, I guess the cheapest way can bring with it its own problems.

Now UAL is trying to rush into the same thing.

 

[weasel_lips]

Does anyone post here except westies that want to bitch?

I would like to see an opposing point of view some time, some healthy debate.

Instead it is 99.9% westies acting like their life is not worth living.

 

[Dr. Rumack]

Does anyone post here except westies that want to bitch?

I would like to see an opposing point of view some time, some healthy debate.

Instead it is 99.9% westies acting like their life is not worth living.

Weasel. Please read my past posts if you have nothing else to do or take me at my word here. I am a Westie and almost never bitch. My life is very worth living. I know other posters in this forum who are also very positive people and rarely bitch. That being the case, if someone was trying to shove a turd sandwich down your piehole you would probably try to talk them out of it. Your argument may not seem rational to someone who would willingly shove a turd sandwich down your throat, but you would make it anyway. Complaining about the turd sandwich would certainly sound like whining to the person who is feeding you and he/she would probably criticize you for doing so. See you in Chicago!

 

[Ocity]

Does anyone post here except westies that want to bitch?

I would like to see an opposing point of view some time, some healthy debate.

Instead it is 99.9% westies acting like their life is not worth living.

The old folks out East haven't yet figured out the information super-highway. They're still waiting for their empire seniority number from 28 years ago.

 

[vetrider]

The old folks out East haven't yet figured out the information super-highway. They're still waiting for their empire seniority number from 28 years ago.

Apparantly date of hire for a Navaho is different than date of hire for a Bac. They need to work on clarification, once that happens they will then need to send the clarification out for membership ratification. After they get management to agree with it, that is.

Well actually, that might need to wait. First they have to help quickdraw McGraw and the guys who got stuck in the mud.

With limited resources, prioritization is key.

 

[vetrider]

Come to think of it, all that stuff will have to wait. Bradford is in Tempe tonight in between trips to lay down the law to Doug Parker during the next two days. Stand by.

 

[get2flyin]

cheaper to buy the turd than get into bidding for dingleberries. AWA was looking to expand and this was the cheapest way.

I think the sole purpose of this move was to keep SWA from taking over PHL, strangling the NE corridor, then marching Westward. Plus investors were lining up to throw money into the pot. It's hard to pass up fire-sale pricing.

 

[get2flyin]

Come to think of it, all that stuff will have to wait. Bradford is in Tempe tonight in between trips to lay down the law to Doug Parker during the next two days. Stand by.

Lay down the law? If history serves, he will agree to binding negotiation, threaten to sue, and then give up everything to the company. The French, cheese eating, surrender monkeys put up a bigger fight during WWII than the old US Airways put up when they agreed to multiple rounds of give-backs to protect their precious pension...which they lost anyway.

Yeah, everybody stand by. :laugh:

 

[vetrider]

Lay down the law? If history serves, he will agree to binding negotiation, threaten to sue, and then give up everything to the company. The French, cheese eating, surrender monkeys put up a bigger fight during WWII than the old US Airways put up when they agreed to multiple rounds of give-backs to protect their precious pension...which they lost anyway.

Yeah, everybody stand by. :laugh:

I was being sarcastic. I suppose I should use some of those icons at the bottom. Bradford can't even figure out his hairline.

 

[Ocity]

Come to think of it, all that stuff will have to wait. Bradford is in Tempe tonight in between trips to lay down the law to Doug Parker during the next two days. Stand by.

http://www.twinpalmshotel.com/

I hope his rest isn't interrupted...he has a big day of begging parker tomorrow. I hope he brought some solid USAPA knee pads. He's promised the world and flushed the union of over 5k pilots to get a chance at his 'do over' dream list.

That's some real solid bargaining position to be in. I'm sure Doug won't see thru it.

 

[get2flyin]

I was being sarcastic. I suppose I should use some of those icons at the bottom. Bradford can't even figure out his hairline.

My sarcasm detector wasn't properly functioning after 2 overnights in CLT in a row. My apologies if it sounded like I was being overly defensive. I suspect we are both on the same page.

 

[vetrider]

My sarcasm detector wasn't properly functioning after 2 overnights in CLT in a row. My apologies if it sounded like I was being overly defensive. I suspect we are both on the same page.

No need to apologize for anything, I thought nothing of it. Sometimes with just printed words its hard to tell.

 

[b737boss]

Lay down the law? If history serves, he will agree to binding negotiation, threaten to sue, and then give up everything to the company. The French, cheese eating, surrender monkeys put up a bigger fight during WWII than the old US Airways put up when they agreed to multiple rounds of give-backs to protect their precious pension...which they lost anyway.

Yeah, everybody stand by. :laugh:

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!!

 

[CaptBud330]

Taxi time

I've been retired for a few years now but I would be absolutely certain the guys I flew with on the 330 had more taxi time the most of the Westies have total time.

 

[Dr. Rumack]

I've been retired for a few years now but I would be absolutely certain the guys I flew with on the 330 had more taxi time the most of the Westies have total time.

Captain Bud,

When you, Wilbur, and Orville were in class together did you establish seniority by total hours or by age? In this century they do it by age as they figure that the hours a pilot brought to the table qualified them for their job and, thus, a position on the seniority list. Beyond that point I really do not think logbooks matter a whole heck of a lot.