What Others Think of the DAL MEC

[PCL_128]

FWIW, I think the Gen is a total idiot too

Ahh, come on! The General is great! Even when you don't agree with him he's still entertaining. Tell us again how much you love LBB, Gen.

 

[PlaneDrvr]

I think they have INTL 757/767 bases in ONT and SDF, and they probably fly those routes.... and, thanks for acknowledging you were WRONG.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I did say that I was wrong, JackA$$. I said that the 767 does NOT make a good 'long-range, heavy freighter' which is TRUE. Why do you think that most of UPS long-range (trans-pac) freight is flown with the MD11; they have more coming and also 747-400Fs coming (new from Boeing, and 2 used coming from Cargolux). I just said, you are probably not going to see a DL 767 with a cargo door flying through ANC on the pac. There is a better chance of a NWA 330 with a cargo door doing the work than a 767, as it would carry more 'bulk' (its wider), and carry more weight.

But, I forgot that you're the expert, so maybe you can tell me just how many 'freighters' that you have flown?? I have flown freighter versions of just about all of the a/c that I have flown with pax config. (727, DC-8, L-1011, and others).

I do wish the NWA pilot all the best with this merger; however, with your attitude, I kinda hopes that it does turn out as 'bad' as I am afraid that it may, just so in about 12-18mths, I can tell YOU (and just YOU), "I told you so."

enough said, Bye.

DA

 

[FDJ2]

NWA is better on our own,


How did the NWALPA voting member on the BOD vote on the merger?

but, if we are going to merge, DALPA better get of it's high horse and start to realize that the NWA pilots can and will wipe out any economic gain, in spite of itself.

I guess you just can't unteach stoopid.

O.K., wipe out your company, drive it into BK, watch Delta not close on the merger and let the feeding frenzy on the carcass begin. That sounds like a strategy for success.

Or you can choose to join in joint negotiations on a joint contract.

Spare me the rhetoric about vacations, merger committee's etc.

That's not rhetoric. Look into it yourself. Two week timeline, MEC Chairman takes a week off on vacation and negotiator goes on a canoe trip, don't expect the world to wait on you.

Anderson bought you off, rather easily I might add. Simple, simple people.

A pay raise, GMAB

Well if it's so inconsequential, what are you upset about?

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Thanks for all your support, not.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Dude, the early 90's called.... they want their snappy catch phrase back. Oh yeah, and I hear Wayne and Garth want to kick your ass...

Oh yeah, and you're other favorite "Oh, Snap"... yeah, that one's played out too. Time for some new material, General.

 

[FDJ2]

What really matters is if the entity will be profitable. With a "less than motivated" pilot group, you can bet you'll see A LOT of RED this summer.

This was all but guaranteed when DALPA decided to abandon the Northwest pilots and side with management. This won't be forgotten anytime soon. The "pay raises" will last right up to the courthouse doors when the new Delta can't pay its bills.

You aren't the new Delta yet. Drive it into BK, great strategy. What happens next? What will the NWA pilots give up next time to save their pensions? How cheap will the bits and pieces of your airline be? Great strategy. Perhaps a better strategy is to negotiate a joint contract that goes above and beyond LOA19.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

If it makes SENSE it doesn't belong in this forum

I love it. The US economy is just now starting to show what a deep RECESSION we are entering and these guys actually think they will get raises, etc. I remember Richard Anderson giving us raises of about 10.5% or so when everyone else were frozen or starting pay cuts. Guess what, we gave it all back, PLUS. Yeah, thats right , Richard Anderson.

NWA is better on our own, but, if we are going to merge, DALPA better get of it's high horse and start to realize that the NWA pilots can and will wipe out any economic gain, in spite of itself.

Spare me the rhetoric about vacations, merger committee's etc. Anderson bought you off, rather easily I might add. Simple, simple people.

A pay raise, GMAB

SSSssshhhhh...
You're thinking rationally here....
distracting from the spin the DL MEC has on here to justify their actions against a profession abhorred by what they've believed and accepted

 

[FR8mastr]

The Comair pilots received an Email from a Pan Am/Delta captain d

Someone said "history repeats itself". Hope this might help your group.

Fraternally,
Name deleted by N2264J
Captain

I always was curious of the inside deal on that one. Thanks for the look.
Just when you thought you knew how bad ALPA corruption could be, you get re educated.

 

[737 Pylt]

SSSssshhhhh...
You're thinking rationally here....
distracting from the spin the DL MEC has on here to justify their actions against a profession abhorred by what they've believed and accepted

Professional such as the NWA MEC are laughable. Their actions over the past 22 years is deplorable! But then again its much easier to go to arbitration every time and tell the pilot group, "well guys, we gave it our best but got screwed! We'll get em next time!"
The kool aid must flow nice and cool in MSP!:laugh:

737

 

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This was all but guaranteed when DALPA decided to abandon the Northwest pilots and side with management. This won't be forgotten anytime soon. The "pay raises" will last right up to the courthouse doors when the new Delta can't pay its bills.

...and how does that help you?

 

[~~~^~~~]

But then again its much easier to go to arbitration every time and tell the pilot group, "well guys, we gave it our best but got screwed! We'll get em next time!"

737

You bring up an insteresting point. I do not see an arbitration coming back better than the offer the NWA MEC already turned down. What then?

I'm not sure how great NWA pilots' expectations are, but an arbitration result that gave them better bidding seniority, 20 to 40% instant pay raises and a better B fund would be an unusual windfall. The chances of that happening are low.