NWA 4-21 Class, delayed and END

[WSurf]

Why is an ATR pilot posting about politics on a thread about NWA class dates?

Probably because we live in a free society and probably cause he sees that you post in the regional section.

But hey, if we don't work for NWA I guess we don't have a clue about the airlines.

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

I wonder if the over 60 guys are staying because they want to see what happens with the merger and if they will get the equity or be bought out?

at the risk of angering my NWA friends...

I understood that NWA pilots not staying past 60 was a critical piece of the NWA pilots' negotiating strategy for SLI with Delta. (attrition that Delta wouldn't have).

Does this change the validity of that argument?

 

[MJ42]

Probably because we live in a free society and probably cause he sees that you post in the regional section.

But hey, if we don't work for NWA I guess we don't have a clue about the airlines.

What an idiot. I posted info related to the thread in the regional section, plus it was about NWA/Compass.

I'm trying to help the guys who want to be here, I have useful info that may be relevant.

If that's your son in your avtar...try spending time with him instead of ALWAYS being on FI. Everytime I log on(which is only a few times per week) you are here. What a pitiful and boring life you must lead!

 

[MJ42]

at the risk of angering my NWA friends...

I understood that NWA pilots not staying past 60 was a critical piece of the NWA pilots' negotiating strategy for SLI with Delta. (attrition that Delta wouldn't have).

Does this change the validity of that argument?

Good point, I guess time will tell.

 

[Superpilot92]

at the risk of angering my NWA friends...

I understood that NWA pilots not staying past 60 was a critical piece of the NWA pilots' negotiating strategy for SLI with Delta. (attrition that Delta wouldn't have).

Does this change the validity of that argument?

Maybe maybe not, if they get bought out either way then no. I guess we will see.

 

[General Lee]

Maybe maybe not, if they get bought out either way then no. I guess we will see.

The key part to that is that none of them have to retire. Maybe they enjoy flying a few times a month to interesting places. We have Delta stews that love to fly once a week with their "friends" (they buddy bid) and go shopping in Madrid or Paris with people they have worked with for 30 plus years. It is more of a social thing than a "customer service" type thing. Some of these senior pilots may pick the flying lifestyle over the golf course.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

The key part to that is that none of them have to retire. Maybe they enjoy flying a few times a month to interesting places. We have Delta stews that love to fly once a week with their "friends" (they buddy bid) and go shopping in Madrid or Paris with people they have worked with for 30 plus years. It is more of a social thing than a "customer service" type thing. Some of these senior pilots may pick the flying lifestyle over the golf course.


Bye Bye--General Lee

maybe maybe not, they still will take a hit on their pensions every year they stay past 60. They still have their pension that will pay out nicely to call it quits. I think they are staying just to see what the equity stake will be if any and then they will bail. I have spoken with a number of senior guys that say IF and thats a big IF they stay past 60 it would probably only be til 62. most however say they want out before 60 and will leave if they can.fwiw

 

[IronCityBlue]

Good points, but the fact that they are not retiring as fast as some thought they would be, or could be, can and will likely be used against the NWA pilot group by any DAL negotiator worth their salt. Arguing that they will suddenly leave after an equity payout and then using that as career expectations for the NWA side of the equation will probably not get by too many arbitrators if it comes to that.

 

[another cfii]

I've flown with senior guys that work 20 days on, flying 90+ hours a month, like there's no tomorrow... When I ask them why, some said their wives won't let them stay home! I guess those will work till 65... I hope that's not the majority at NW.

 

[WSurf]

What an idiot. I posted info related to the thread in the regional section, plus it was about NWA/Compass.

I'm trying to help the guys who want to be here, I have useful info that may be relevant.

If that's your son in your avtar...try spending time with him instead of ALWAYS being on FI. Everytime I log on(which is only a few times per week) you are here. What a pitiful and boring life you must lead!

Boy, Touchy Touchy. LOL

 

[MJ42]

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[MJ42]

Boy, Touchy Touchy. LOL

No, I just like to put you in your place when your responses are inaccurate. I laugh at your feeble attempt to look knowledgeable.

 

[WSurf]

No, I just like to put you in your place when your responses are inaccurate. I laugh at your feeble attempt to look knowledgeable.

Easy now! Just because you go around braggin about sharpining those insturment skills in the DC9 doesn't make me less knowledgeable.

 

[Pocono Pilot]

I have spoken with a number of senior guys that say IF and thats a big IF they stay past 60 it would probably only be til 62. most however say they want out before 60 and will leave if they can.fwiw

I'm so sure they tell you their true plans. LOL

They are all staying and you and they know it. Don't be such a gullible nerd.

 

[MJ42]

Easy now! Just because you go around braggin about sharpining those insturment skills in the DC9 doesn't make me less knowledgeable.

1) I don't brag. It's much better to show humility then to act like an ass.

2) See your quote below:

Glass does one thing, it narrows your scan to a more smaller defined area. Never said glass didn't make life easier.

By looking at a Flight Director you have the luxury of not looking at your Alt, A/S, VSI, Heading. Basically reducing your scan.

If you wanna sharpin your insturment skills either in Glass or Steam. Just turn off the flight director and hand fly.

Like I said, its all the same. Modern Glass just narrows the scan area and makes life easier.

All the same, you pull back houses get smaller. You push forward and they get bigger.

If you keep pulling back, they get smaller and then all the sudden get bigger really fast.

Okay, your all pilots now. So Go have fun with the profession you have chosen.
Last edited by WSurf : 03-15-2008 at 16:25.

More quotes from this intellectual genius ...

Dang, I only have the Poor Man's Glass experience!
Called Ghetto Glass.

WOW, I just found out I must be a good insturment pilot then!!! Yeaaaa.

I gotta get GL to walk my resume into Delta now!

Seems to me this shows how full of crap you are! You think you know everything. This is great, I love to debate you.:laugh: