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Actually, being a commuter sometimes works to your advantage since you're more likely to find and fly out-of-domicile pairings. ;)

Do the trips you pick up have to start at a domicile or can you pick up open stuff out of various cities?
 
just wondering why does SWA have such a complicated (at least for me) pay system? why not just pay per hour?


If you do not like the way we get paid here DO NOT apply!!! We do not force anyone to work here. Anybody who has a brain loves the the trip pay over the pay by the hour.
 
If you do not like the way we get paid here DO NOT apply!!! We do not force anyone to work here. Anybody who has a brain loves the the trip pay over the pay by the hour.

Do you think he'll answer you? He asked that question in a post a YEAR ago. Welcome to FI.
 
Geeze brother. Why the smack down? I think it's "fuzzy math" the way we get paid too. Does that mean I should quit?

There's got to be a good deal in it for the company or we would have stopped it years ago.

Gup
 
Do the trips you pick up have to start at a domicile or can you pick up open stuff out of various cities?

You can pick up wherever you want. But guys in base have priority on the open time.
 
The may be a dumb question, but...

I assume they don't teach you this in training, so what would you guys say is the typical time it takes to learn this and how do you learn it? Is it going to be trial and error....just do and learn ourselves? Obviously $$$ is a great motivator, but I was just wondering how we learn this---bidding, TFPs, etc, you get the picture!
 
I assume they don't teach you this in training, so what would you guys say is the typical time it takes to learn this and how do you learn it? Is it going to be trial and error....just do and learn ourselves? Obviously $$$ is a great motivator, but I was just wondering how we learn this---bidding, TFPs, etc, you get the picture!

You'll learn it as you go along. As a first year FO just pick up as much Open Time and Extra Fly as you can so 2nd year pay kicks in. You could probably do 120 Trips per month if you work hard at it on first year. As far as bidding, you will be on reserve weekends and then get a Blank Line weekends then ultimately a line weekends. When you get a line though, you can trade trips around so it maximizes your days off when their is a lot of Open Time. Then Extra Fly or VJA. The more senior the better.

Welcome aboard!
 
You'll learn it as you go along. As a first year FO just pick up as much Open Time and Extra Fly as you can so 2nd year pay kicks in. You could probably do 120 Trips per month if you work hard at it on first year. As far as bidding, you will be on reserve weekends and then get a Blank Line weekends then ultimately a line weekends. When you get a line though, you can trade trips around so it maximizes your days off when their is a lot of Open Time. Then Extra Fly or VJA. The more senior the better.

Welcome aboard!
Wow, clear as mud!!! I see what you mean: I figured it will be much easier to learn once we start flying and I bet it'll be one of those "lessons learned" experiences! Hey, I'll post this on LCC as well, but with less than 2 weeks to the Apr 9 class, what should I/we study---the welcome packet they sent is VERY overwhelming, especially with only 2 weeks to prepare instead of at least 30 days! Just trying to see what I should concentrate on to "get a head start and be as prepared as possible. Thanks!
 
Memory Items
Limitations

Only if you have time
Flows
Watch the systems videos on the CD


...prepare your liver....especially since you are an air force guy.......he he he
 
There will be a day when a scheduler comes in and explains how to earn 2nd year pay and trip trading and all that stuff. But you will have more important things to get to. So when you get ready to do it for the first time, you won't remember any of it.

Limitations, memory items. Schedule the static trainer early and often with your sim partner and start learning your flows. White pages of the FOM is your day to day job. Read that.

Don't sweat it. By far the easiest airline training I have had. Prepare for a couple of 12 hour benders. Liver spots should be gone a week or so after training.
 

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