SWA "trips" pay?

[FDXer]

best way to understand it simply...we get paid per job not per hour.

Just like a hooker....

 

[Aubie]

It all sounds a lot more complicated than it really is.

The basic premise is that we get paid by the DISTANCE instead of the TIME. This was done to encourage on time or ealry arrivals a long time ago. (No matter how fast you get there Dallas isn't going to get less than 243 miles from Houston). That, BTW, is why 1 trip= 243mi. First flt was DAL-HOU and it became the standard unit of measure.

The cool thing is you can find trips that pay more relative to the block to make more $$$, either by being longhauls or having deadheads. More $$$ is cool.....

All these formulas (like 1.15 trip = 1 hour) are simply AVERAGES across all the lines. The game is to try and find a line that pays better relative to its block time.

 

[SWA GUY]

My April schedule:

124 trips for pay
79.08 hours

The 1.15 calculation is dependent upon how ambitious/creative the pilot is.

My conversion is more like 1.56:1, most of the time better than that.

 

[Captain X]

Excellent info (and trivia about the 243 NM thing) guys. Thanks!

Now on to the next question? What is the current pay rate per trip for say a:

1 year FO?

5 year FO?

6 year CA?

12 year CA?

 

[chris69]

Years in Service Captain Longevity Pay Rate FO Longevity Pay Rate
1 $153.02 $45.90
2 $154.88 $77.45
3 $156.77 $86.22
4 $158.63 $95.18
5 $160.39 $104.26
6 $162.39 $107.19
7 $164.26 $108.41
8 $166.13 $109.64
9 $168.01 $110.89
10 $169.87 $112.12
11 $171.76 $113.37
12 $173.63 $114.59

SWAPA rag had avg. hourly coversion around 1.17-1.19 on the score card page, so multiply the above by that for the hourly.

 

[Captain X]

Years in Service Captain Longevity Pay Rate FO Longevity Pay Rate
1 $153.02 $45.90
2 $154.88 $77.45
3 $156.77 $86.22
4 $158.63 $95.18
5 $160.39 $104.26
6 $162.39 $107.19
7 $164.26 $108.41
8 $166.13 $109.64
9 $168.01 $110.89
10 $169.87 $112.12
11 $171.76 $113.37
12 $173.63 $114.59

SWAPA rag had avg. hourly coversion around 1.17-1.19 on the score card page, so multiply the above by that for the hourly.

That's straight from your contract and no the "rates" from airlinepilotcontracts or whatever that website is correct?

 

[RedDogC130]

Those on airline pilot or corrected to an hourly rate...theX1.393...... that equals what is on that site. I would assume if you took TFP for a month and the correcte hourly, you should get pretty close to the same amount or within a car payment or good night on the town.

 

[Benhuntn]

I will add a couple of things about our pay. First yr FO's get paid 2nd yr pay if they pick up from the company. After that pilots pickup VJA and JA at a premium of trips x 1.5. So the 1000 hrs per yr = x is close unless you go out and hustle and then you can greatly boost your earnings.

 

[Alcatraz]

...and deadheads are paid at 100%, not 50% like some other places I've worked. Of course, deadheading does not count as block time... so deadheading is a GOOD thing, and you can maximize pay per block hour by having more deadheads.

And yeah, the rates at www.airlinepilotcentral.com are corrected to approximate an hourly rate, making an apples-to-apples comparison between companies much easier.

 

[328dude]

6 trips for pay each reserve day as well.