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With the PBS, flying lines can be awarded to a minimum. It wouldn't take much to offset the cutbacks.

Since I have been furloughed twice from UAL during my career, I do know the experience. I sincerely hope there are no cutbacks. There are other ways of dealing with this situation and they can be implemented with the Union's cooperation. However, therein lies the problem, no one wants to give up anything in that "Union." At least that's the way it's been in the past.

For those with future class dates, they will most likely be cancelled so plan accordingly. I am sorry to say this.

Health insurance for those furloughed will be "pay your own Colbra" only. Do not expect your fellow pilots to chip in to help like they did before. The current membership is all for themselves it seems.

I am truely sorry to see this. But the membership will do whatever they think must be done to save themselves, which means save the company and their jobs.
 
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United cutting back, selling planes to offset higher fuel costs

United Airlines plans to ground as many as 20 airplanes or 4 percent of its fleet and further cut capacity in 2008 to soften the blow of soaring oil prices that could add $1 billion to its fuel tab over last year.

The nation's second-largest carrier said Tuesday it will ground and sell back to lessors 15 to 20 older, narrow-body 737s that are less fuel-efficient than others in its 460-plane fleet. It did not immediately specify what domestic flights or routes could be trimmed.

The move comes with UAL Corp.'s United getting more aggressive in trying to pass on higher fuel costs to its customers. It raised ticket prices by as much as $50 per round trip last week -- an increase matched by other carriers -- and is increasingly charging passengers additional fees for some offerings, such as a premium check-in service and $25 for checking a second bag.

It remains to be seen whether that will be enough to stem the fuel cost setback without reducing its staff, as Delta announced plans for on Tuesday. Delta said it will offer voluntary severance payouts to roughly 30,000 employees, or more than half its work force, along with cutting domestic capacity another 5 percent because of skyrocketing fuel prices.

Fuel is United's largest expense, and every $1 increase in the price of a barrel of oil boosts its costs by about $60 million. Oil prices have shot up by about $20 barrel in the last six weeks, raising United's projected 2008 costs by some $1.2 billion.

"We are taking a prudent step now by reducing our fleet, taking assets out of the network that don't make sense at these fuel prices, to better position United to be successful in an ever-challenging environment," Chief Financial Officer Jake Brace said. He outlined the changes at a conference for airline industry investors in New York.

United also is looking for other places to cut costs and said it has increased its fuel hedges since January, with 20 percent of its fuel hedged for 2008.

CEO Glenn Tilton defended the need to pass on higher costs to customers in a message to employees, noting that the economic environment has changed significantly over the past several weeks.

"Continued uncertainty about the overall U.S. economy with the price of fuel at historically high levels has put significant pressure on all U.S. carriers," he said. "U.S. airlines must function like other businesses, making investments and providing service where we can do so profitably."

United's pilots quickly issued a statement criticizing the plan, however, saying that "shrinking the airline to achieve profitability has been demonstrated to be a failed business practice."

"Cutting its fleet of airplanes does not address the larger cost problems that continue to beleaguer this airline," said Steve Wallach, head of the United branch of the Air Line Pilots Association. "Instead of doling out hundreds of million of dollars to shareholders and pocketing millions of dollars in bonuses and salary increases, perhaps management should reinvest that money into our operation."

But company spokeswoman Jean Medina disagreed with Wallach, saying that United's five-year plan calls for investing $4 billion in investment back into its business.

The pilots have stepped up criticism of United's top executives in recent months, angry that they have not gotten additional compensation since their pay was reduced sharply during the company's bankruptcy restructuring from 2002-06.

United's management remains interested in consolidation, but the run-up in fuel prices appears to have chilled that talk for now.

The company plans to announce specifics of any capacity cuts when it reports first-quarter results in late April or early May.

United shares jumped $1.66, or 7.9 percent, to $22.57 in Tuesday trading.
 
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With the PBS, flying lines can be awarded to a minimum. It wouldn't take much to offset the cutbacks.

Since I have been furloughed twice from UAL during my career, I do know the experience. I sincerely hope there are no cutbacks. There are other ways of dealing with this situation and they can be implemented with the Union's cooperation. However, therein lies the problem, no one wants to give up anything in that "Union." At least that's the way it's been in the past.

For those with future class dates, they will most likely be cancelled so plan accordingly. I am sorry to say this.

Health insurance for those furloughed will be "pay your own Colbra" only. Do not expect your fellow pilots to chip in to help like they did before. The current membership is all for themselves it seems.

I am truely sorry to see this. But the membership will do whatever they think must be done to save themselves, which means save the company and their jobs.

No classes have been cancelled and the plan for 200+ pilots this year is going as planned. From JAN on it is anybody's guess.

But with the latest news of 15-20 guppies being parked will not be followed by a furlough.
 
No classes have been cancelled and the plan for 200+ pilots this year is going as planned. From JAN on it is anybody's guess.

But with the latest news of 15-20 guppies being parked will not be followed by a furlough.

a quick search of this tools posts will show you that you should just ignore his self centered posts :rolleyes:
 
Not being self-centered here SUPERpilot.......

I am trying to make sure that people who are interested in the truth about what is going on here knows.

That is the farthest thing from being self-centered at least in my book - I wish I had a cool car like you though lol......
 
Not being self-centered here SUPERpilot.......

I am trying to make sure that people who are interested in the truth about what is going on here knows.

That is the farthest thing from being self-centered at least in my book - I wish I had a cool car like you though lol......


He wasn't talking about you Shrek. He was talking about Undaunted.
 
Hi, it's Glenn and it's Tuesday, the 18th of March.

The economic environment in which our industry operates has changed significantly over the past several weeks. Continued uncertainty about the overall U.S. economy with the price of fuel at historically high levels has put significant pressure on all U.S. carriers.

Fuel is our largest expense, as it is for the industry overall, and every 1 dollar increase in a barrel of oil increases our costs by about 60 million dollars. In the last six weeks, the price of oil has increased by some 20 dollars a barrel. United has led industry efforts to pass on some of these fuel costs to customers, as other industries pass on their commodity costs.

United has led two fare increases in as many weeks, the second matched by other carriers this past weekend. We have also led the industry in taking critical and responsiblesteps to reduce domestic capacity to work to maintain profitability.

Last summer, when we assessed the competitive environment and outlined our five-year plan, we determined that we would take a different path relative to our U.S. competitors – one that would strengthen the core business and put United in the best possible position to be successful.

In the current environment, that work and our direction remain sound.

We will continue to invest in specific elements of our business that are critical to safety; and on improving service delivery, with a focus on areas that provide value and a return to all stakeholders.

As we recently outlined to our investors, we are pursuing new revenue opportunities from unbundling products and services, giving our customers the opportunity to pay for that which they value. This will generate important incremental income that will in some part offset costs that are beyond our control.

At the same time, our progress in reducing cost through standard work and continuous improvement becomes even more critical.

We will redouble our focus on conserving resources and reducing our spending in areas that are not critical and do not provide a return in this environment; and we will also continue our actions to responsibly deploy capital and divest the company of assets that no longer provide an acceptable return.

In that regard, today we will announce a reduction to our fleet of 15 to 20 aircraft by year-end, eliminating from our fleet older, less fuel efficient, narrow-body aircraft. We will continue to review the deployment of our aircraft to ensure we are using our assets appropriately where they can provide the best return.

These decisions, in addition to being responsive to the difficult business environment, are consistent with the overall strategy we outlined in our plan last year to make our company more financially resilient.

That said, today’s environment only amplifies the serious issues facing U.S. carriers in the global marketplace. At United, we have been candid and realistic about the growing gap between U.S. network carriers and our overseas competitors for some time. As the impact of today’s business realities hits home, the issue of sustainability should be front and center.

It is in no one’s interest -- not our employees, our investors, and certainly not our customers – for U.S. network carriers to be so vulnerable to inevitable, as well as unexpected, economic downturns. U.S. airlines must function like other businesses, making investments and providing service where we can do so profitably.

Delivering an acceptable level of return is the premise for everything we have in our five-year plan; from managing our individual lines of business with a clear line of sight to how they perform and add to the core business, to managing every element of the company more efficiently.

This industry has serious challenges ahead; we have never been in denial about the issues our company has faced, and we are better positioned than most to address those that confront the industry today.

That's all for now. I'll be talking to you again soon. Until then, stay focused on our customers, and, of course, on one another...and stay united


Hey Glenn give us pilots a decent contract so we can help you otherwise...******************** YOU!

If you were not such an a$ on here i would feel sorry for you but I dont.
Good luck to all the other pilots at UAL.
 
If you have a class date and it gets cancelled, does a pilot candidate have to go through the whole int. process again?
 
My buddy started indoc on March 17th. He's still there with an April bus training date. Not canceled yet.
 

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