The big vote. Any guesses?

[PCL_128]

Another crybaby falls by the wayside.

 

[ultrarunner]

Whatever the vote, the award by the mediator will stand.

 

[SaturnPilot]

From:Richard P.
Sent:Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:59 PM
To:'Jack S.
Cc:'....

Subject:Fin

Dear Jack: Please accept this resignation of my position of Captain Representative for Council
32. After much deep soul searching during the past few days, I have come to the conclusion that ALPA as
well as the MEC is broken beyond repair.

simply brilliant..."My MEC, which includes myself, is broken...As a voting member of the MEC, I have substantial power to fix the problems on my council, as long as I can convince a majority of the other voting members I am right...however, instead of fixing these problems, I am resigning my position."

In my 33 years in ALPA, I have been on several committees, paid many assessments, fought the
People Express war,walked Eastern picket lines and TWA F/A lines. I also picketed the White House
when Bond was threatening to jail us for violations. This is not the same ALPA. ALPA used to have men
of honor. Now it’s all secret mini-meetings in someone’s room, power tripsand backstabbing.

unbelievable insight...how about telling us what the specific problems are, so that the guy who is elected to serve out the remainder of the term that you abandoned knows what he should try to fix.

When the true talent begins to leave one by one, seemingly a different one every day, as well
as the taking out of nearly irreplaceable committee members simply so you can put your hopelessly
clueless friend in the position strains credibility. I cannot represent my pilots in such a poisonous
atmosphere. An atmosphere where even the man who ran against me in Boston has resigned all his
positions.

Plato -
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

 

[PCL_128]

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

 

[JoeMerchant]

http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/05/isnt_it_ironic_.html


Read the comments after the article.....The second to last comment is very interesting.....

 

[PCL_128]

Not really. Disgruntled former employee (if he's even legit).

 

[AV80R]

Another crybaby falls by the wayside.

PCL - you seem to be very pro ALPA - have you thought about bringing ALPA to AirTran?

I bet most of the NPA pilots wouldn't want that. Am I wrong?

 

[SaturnPilot]

http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/05/isnt_it_ironic_.html


Read the comments after the article.....The second to last comment is very interesting.....

I agree...the guy above who resigned was on the BOD and he could have actually tried to fix these problems...instead he quit.

 

[JoeMerchant]

I agree...the guy above who resigned was on the BOD and he could have actually tried to fix these problems...instead he quit.

....there are many former BOD members who have given up on ALPA....it is beyond repair.....

The USAPA, RJDC, and other groups are largely made up of former ALPA leaders who have seen things from the inside.....

ALPA won't change until it's very existance is threatened....and that time is coming.......:beer:

 

[PCL_128]

PCL - you seem to be very pro ALPA - have you thought about bringing ALPA to AirTran?

I bet most of the NPA pilots wouldn't want that. Am I wrong?

Hopefully there will be a vote someday so we can find out.

 

[SaturnPilot]

....there are many former BOD members who have given up on ALPA....it is beyond repair.....

The USAPA, RJDC, and other groups are largely made up of former ALPA leaders who have seen things from the inside.....

ALPA won't change until it's very existance is threatened....and that time is coming.......:beer:

had the "many BOD members" you just mentioned NOT resigned from the highest governing body in the association, they possibly could have held a voting block large enough to effect the change that needed to be made to ALPA to fix what needs to be fixed.

You say ALPA won't change until it's existance is threatened. I guess that's because the people in power who want to change it and have the ability to keep quitting.

Specifically, what is broken beyond repair in ALPA? You have said you don't like the politics on the BOD, so how should ALPA be structured to eliminate those politics?

I don't see any solutions what-so-ever being brought up here.

 

[AV80R]

Hopefully there will be a vote someday so we can find out.

During my almost 2 year long tenure at AirTran (which I greatly enjoyed btw) I think I might have ran into 4 or 5 pilots there who were pro-Alpa. I think most pilots’ perception was that just about any union was better than Alpa. I tend to agree.

 

[PCL_128]

During my almost 2 year long tenure at AirTran (which I greatly enjoyed btw) I think I might have ran into 4 or 5 pilots there who were pro-Alpa. I think most pilots’ perception was that just about any union was better than Alpa. I tend to agree.

It seems that the opinions of many have changed after the TA debacle last year. You weren't here to witness that mess.

 

[AV80R]

It seems that the opinions of many have changed after the TA debacle last year. You weren't here to witness that mess.

Very true. I still have many friends there through - so far not one has become pro-alpa. Well, maybe one, flyfast - are you for alpa now?

 

[Bringupthebird]

From:Richard P.
Sent:Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:59 PM
To:'Jack S.
Cc:'....

Subject:Fin

Dear Jack: Please accept this resignation of my position of Captain Representative for Council...

My take is that the rats who were using ALPA resources to gin up USAPA have been found out and are leaving in droves. It wouldn't take too much clairvoyance to predict the BOS, DCA and LGA locals to be placed in trusteeship next.

I have no doubt that there are sufficient pilots with integrity that will replace the traitors and serve the US Airways pilots. The vote will bear that out.