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Freight Dog;1528372When fatigue becomes either the probable cause or a major contributing factor to a crash at a Part 121 airline said:The NTSB has already cited fatigue as a probable cause in several accidents. Here's a transcript of James Hall's speech in Little Rock, AR on January 26, 2000. Note that he cites fatigue not just in relation to AA 1420 but to other accidents as well: http://www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/former/hall/jhc000126.htm
As long as the Airline Transport Association (ATA) remains strong, the rest rules will likely not be reviewed or revised.
:erm: Wait......Hilo is HTO? Not ITO? Who is General Lyman? Where the hell have I been going all these years?
There is a real problem out there with fatigue.
I know at my company they are much happier backing down on schedule extensions etc. when you drop the ol' F-Bomb. They do not want Fatigue reports being scattered around drawing attention to the horrible schedules.
I pray that this issue explodes to a frenzy and public outcry for tougher rules. They will not understand the effect on ticket prices until it's too late.
I hope news outlets continue to interview anonymous pilots regarding this issue. BTW, I also think that the fact that we are so scared to own our statements on a major safety issue reflects a whole other dimension of problems. This is why govt. employees have whistleblower protection, and a merit based upgrade system is a TERRIBLE threat.
sorry if I'm rambling. I'M TIRED!
Hey JP,You may think this incident will focus national attention on the fatigue issue, but you'd be wrong. The American people just want cheap transportation. Revising the rest rules would just require airlines to hire more crews, and would raise fares.
All that will happen is this crew will be publicly castigated as bad guys, will be disposed of, and the public will think the bad apples have been weeded out. Then they will stick their heads back in the sand and pretend the fatigue issue doesn't exist, while they sit back and enjoy their $199 transcon flight and bitch there's no free meal service.