UPS Pool

[JohnnyPilot]

Any idea how many in the pool?

I have been swimming since 6/07.

Any info. on classes or what plans UPS has?

Is BT still in the department?

If not, does that mean the pool will be dumped?

I am starving for some info.

Thanks for any help!!

Johnny

 

[navigatro]

I have heard 55 in the pool, and hiring approx that many in 2008. I would estimate that hiring would begin no earlier than late summer.

BT is not working in the same office. He is on assignment to the simulators. The airline HR (hiring) office has been temporarily closed.

There are lots of variables - age 65, displacement bids, fleet reductions/expansions, etc.

Things change often, so hang in there. Good Luck.

 

[Tomct]

Sorry to hear that you are still in the pool. It does not make sense to see a company that makes so much money and has such a huge network....debating either furloughing or cutting back aircraft. Does this not strike anybody else as oh...I don't know....maybe STUPID!! I sure hope their mgmnt gets out of this "trucker mind mentality" before they ruin a Great Company. Good Luck!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Who mentioned anything about a furlough?

PS: I think the "trucker-like" mentality has worked out well so far. They must be doing something right.

 

[astropilot]

Trucker manager

These trucking managers have been slowly working into airline positions. I know many management type in maintenance are baling for Southwest.

 

[JohnnyPilot]

Thanks Nav.,

I know it will be worth the wait if I ever do make it out of the pool. The lack of information and communication is very frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I know I am very lucky to have made it this far, but.... It just is frustrating to wait with no communication or update or anything. How about a blanket email that says " All applicants in the pool, we are currently evaluating our needs, please be patient." That would be better than what we have now; nothing but rumor.

Sorry to vent, I do not want to sound like a spoiled pilot but..... anyway, this is the glamor of aviation.

Johnny

 

[ERJDRVR]

I have heard 55 in the pool, and hiring approx that many in 2008. I would estimate that hiring would begin no earlier than late summer.

BT is not working in the same office. He is on assignment to the simulators. The airline HR (hiring) office has been temporarily closed.

There are lots of variables - age 65, displacement bids, fleet reductions/expansions, etc.

Things change often, so hang in there. Good Luck.

Check APC, they have a list going.

 

[JohnnyPilot]

Thanks ERJ, I added my name to the list. Hope to see you in class soon!!

Johnny

 

[Lowpayisgreat]

Furlough

Stop making people scared with this furlough crap. No-one has said furlough and by the way they are JAing in everyfleet. We still have people retiring and losing their medical. I don't see hiring this year, with Md's moving to domestic, over 60 guys (8 fe panal over staffed by 60, from IPA). If the economy and the worlds for that matter don't get bad you could see after peak 2008. Just way too much training with the 3 dispalment (1 now, 2 coming) bids going on. The wild card is the world economy, but everyone now is working hard.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Hope to see you in class soon!!

Johnny

Johnny,

SOON? lol... sorry but the company is committed to a course of self-destruction. Don't expect any hiring for another 3-7 YEARS, IMO.

BBB

 

[AV80R]

...It does not make sense to see a company that makes so much money and has such a huge network....debating either furloughing or cutting back aircraft...

Huh? Furlough? Where did you hear that? Are you a member of some branch Davidian 'glass-is-always-half-empty' cult?

We are 'cutting' old aircraft to replace them with new ones, 767s and 747-400s. Take a deep breath; the end of the world is not here yet...

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Huh? Furlough? Where did you hear that?

Though I think much of it is bluster, it's still cause for concern when the company announces their intent to reduce domestic manning by 40% (5 crews reduced to 3 per aircraft). The numbers were about the same/worse on the international side.

IMHO... that type of staffing reduction is laughably improbable. HOWEVER, UPS's intent is to clearly reduce staffing and this first displacement bid is proof. It is cause for concern if you are junior in your seat or near the bottom in system seniority.

Best case is stagnation; very few pilots will retire in the next 5 years, age 65 and the 200 or so over 60 FE's, 3>2 cockpit conversion as old airplanes retired, all new jets are widebodies, etc...

I'm not even mentioning the possibility of several hundred mgmt pilots integrating or the economy in recession... This is certainly NOT a period of growth in our ranks, thus my prediction of no hiring for several years.

Wish it were different...

BBB

 

[LittleLearBoy]

BBB I'm with you on this. WHO KNOWS what they are going to do. I don't think UPS knows what to do as of right now. They have many plans, but don't know which one to pick from. I say just sit back and what the show. When they do start to hired again, I say EMPTY the POOL first!!! Yes, I hate the pool.

LLB

 

[pilotgolfer]

Is there anyone that interviewed at or around Sept 24th 2007 that made it into class already? I was invited to an interview that week and I'm curious if I would still be waiting for a class (if offered a job).

Thanks

 

[Tomct]

If they were smart...they would just pay the Old FE's their Captains pay, but leave them in the side-saddle. It is going to waste so much time and money that it is not even funny. And for what? So someone can sit in the left seat for MAYBE 3-5yrs? Leave them sideways and give them Captain pay and quit screwing around with all of the JMng. Get the guys out of the pool and get on with the hiring!!
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