Airtran may get some of Delta's gates in ATL

[CitationLover]

#5... Actually they don't. Hourly wage may be a little more at MEH but when you consider AAI's retirement then the AAI's compensation is better. Throw in the reserve pay at AAI and I don't think its even close. I could be wrong, but ask MEH reserve pilots how often they block 95+ hours of credit a month. Remember, theres more to compensation then just hourly wage..

we have an A plan and you don't. it matches your b plan in value when the early retirement subsidy kicks in. we also have a weak b plan based upon age (2%/4%/6%). do some research next time.

as for hating "Scraps", I'm simply following the path of gt1900, eagle757, and kharma who constantly bash midwest. it's not my fault joe leonard couldn't sell the airline better to the MEH board.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

SWA would move into ATL in a big way if they merged with AirTran.

cliff
GRB

PS-If DAL/NWA goes, then SWA says they WILL merge with someone.

 

[BSkin]

Hi!

SWA would move into ATL in a big way if they merged with AirTran.

cliff
GRB

PS-If DAL/NWA goes, then SWA says they WILL merge with someone.

Key word there is MERGE. I doubt SWA will merge, they will buy. As an FL 717 guy, I hope it's Alaska Airlines or Frontier.

On another note, anybody else heard the rumor that AAI has been looking into us? Hope that one's not true, we saw what they did to the TWA guys!

 

[Kharma Police]

we have an A plan and you don't. it matches your b plan in value when the early retirement subsidy kicks in. we also have a weak b plan based upon age (2%/4%/6%). do some research next time.

as for hating "Scraps", I'm simply following the path of gt1900, eagle757, and kharma who constantly bash midwest. it's not my fault joe leonard couldn't sell the airline better to the MEH board.

Who said I "bashed" MEH? We wanted the same thing (although you weren't even working at MEH at the time) to keep the two airlines separate. I thought your airline was a waste of money and not worth what we were offering from the beginning. My thoughts were that if we wanted to grow in that booming metropolis of Milwaukee we could, without MEH.

 

[CitationLover]

Who said I "bashed" MEH? We wanted the same thing (although you weren't even working at MEH at the time) to keep the two airlines separate. I thought your airline was a waste of money and not worth what we were offering from the beginning. My thoughts were that if we wanted to grow in that booming metropolis of Milwaukee we could, without MEH.

it was all a plot to steal our water like the state of georgia is doing to tennessee.

 

[FIREMAN]

it was all a plot to steal our water like the state of georgia is doing to tennessee.

What ? How can Georgia steal water from a state that is up stream ?

 

[Kharma Police]

You are an a$$! Talk about an accident that was by no means the company's fault, and we still have many people on property that were friends w/ one or more of the crew. Compare the loss of life to a loss of business smarts, Lumberg, you need an a$$- whooping. I'd be happy to!

You need to lay off Bill, my Gator friend. He took the bankruptcy quite personally and is quite sensitive about it. These are tough times for him, he understands that despite the pretty new paint job, not allot has changed with his companies business plan. And now, with the upcoming merger with the kind and benevolent employees of NWA, things will only be more stressful for the lad. So, please cut the guy some slack, let him point out flaws in our business model and rant about "unfair" subsidies and the Everglades, it's a good distraction for him to blame Delta's problems on AirTran. So Bill, please fire away, (just be ready for us to fire back).

 

[CitationLover]

What ? How can Georgia steal water from a state that is up stream ?

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080208/NEWS0201/802080435

thieves.

 

[SkiFishFly]

it was all a plot to steal our water like the state of georgia is doing to tennessee.

SHHH. How did you know we were loading up on MKE water and flying it back to Georgia??? This "operation" was only briefed to certain "select" individuals. You better watch your back now that they know that you know...

 

[CitationLover]

SHHH. How did you know we were loading up on MKE water and flying it back to Georgia??? This "operation" was only briefed to certain "select" individuals. You better watch your back now that they know that you know...

PSST. MKE water is dirty, pass it on.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Oh' I thought this was about gates in ATL.

Delta may just get its' gates back from SkyWest. Who's paying for the RJ jetways?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Key word there is MERGE. I doubt SWA will merge, they will buy.

True. Why would SWA merge and end up with an AirTran that costs more than it does today?

This is the part of the DAL/NWA that I do not get. The labor groups of both companies are going to try to pick the best of either contract. The result will be costs that are higher than they are currently for DAL/NWA. The real synergy of a merger is already being realized through codeshare and coordination on routes and markets.

 

[lowecur]

Fins

True. Why would SWA merge and end up with an AirTran that costs more than it does today?

This is the part of the DAL/NWA that I do not get. The labor groups of both companies are going to try to pick the best of either contract. The result will be costs that are higher than they are currently for DAL/NWA. The real synergy of a merger is already being realized through codeshare and coordination on routes and markets.

Well, there isn't anything in it for Wall St if that happens.

GL talks about Anderson telling CVG they have nothing to worry about, but I don't buy it. As profitable or unprofitable as some of these RJ hubs may or may not be, it's only a matter of time before they are history. I think MEM will be gone right from the getgo, with CVG to follow a slow death(2-4 yrs). SLC will be the exception because of it's strategic location, and the fact JBLU would move in a heartbeat.

Synergies are great, but it's the cutting of duplicate expenses and the increase in revenues that will drive future decisions.

imp:​

 

[General Lee]

Well, there isn't anything in it for Wall St if that happens.

GL talks about Anderson telling CVG they have nothing to worry about, but I don't buy it. As profitable or unprofitable as some of these RJ hubs may or may not be, it's only a matter of time before they are history. I think MEM will be gone right from the getgo, with CVG to follow a slow death(2-4 yrs). SLC will be the exception because of it's strategic location, and the fact JBLU would move in a heartbeat.

Synergies are great, but it's the cutting of duplicate expenses and the increase in revenues that will drive future decisions.

imp:​

I am glad you lowecur can see through Anderson's lies and the Congressmen/Senators cannot.... There is a lot riding on CVG remaining open for a lot of people, and that includes the politicians who will press for it in writing. Can that change eventually? Sure. But, the highest yields in our system and some very large corporate accounts will keep some service there, probably to large US cities, and maybe a couple INTL cities. A "focus" city maybe a better term, stolen from the JB guys...

You may be right about MEM, and I don't see us leaving SLC either. Future expansion I see is a continuation of build up at JFK (outside of slot times) and LAX.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[737 Pylt]

Hi!

SWA would move into ATL in a big way if they merged with AirTran.

cliff
GRB

PS-If DAL/NWA goes, then SWA says they WILL merge with someone.

I disagree. Southwest will BUY someone!

737