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psycho

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My child's Teacher is interested in having a Pilot present to a 2nd grade class during Black History Month. Our shhool is located in the northeast suburbs of Detroit. If anyone has any availability, please PM me and we can share details.

Thanks
 
Quite being a F***** and tell us all why you have a problem with a pilot who happens to be a memeber of OBAP going to talk to kids in school. Show everyone how stupid you are.
 
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crxpilot said:
I have no problem with OBAP, just want equal rights. Got a problem with that?
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Gee, what the F*** does that have to do with going to talk to kids in school? I guess OBAP is the reason why you don't think you have equal rights.
Anyway, I grew up in Detroit. Everyone around me went to work for GM, Ford, or Chrysler. I honestly had no idea that there were black pilots. I never met one and Detroit isn't an environment conducive to running into pilots every once in a while.

I happen to be a member of OBAP. Been a member since the year I met a pilot who happened to be a member of OBAP. I was 17. Before then, I honestly thought my only option was the auto plant. It took meeting a pilot who had a similar background as I before really believing that becoming an airline pilot was something I could accomplish. I don't expect you to understand what I'm trying to say especially after reading your reply. It's sad though.
 
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crxpilot said:
I have no problem with OBAP, just want equal rights. Got a problem with that?
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Why did you even bother to respond?

The original poster had a simple request. Your response is both off-topic and classless. If you want to have an "equal rights for whites" discussion, please do it somewhere else.
 
The title of this thread implies that one specific demographic of pilot is preferred for this requirement.

Isn't that racism?
 
One specific Demographic is being requested you Moron. Please reread my original post.
Every time I visit this website I am embarrassed to be an Airline Pilot.
No suprise that we have been so completely bent over by management. They may be morally bankrupt but at least they continued to mature after High School.
 
If all you need is a pilot, why on earth did you find it necessary for that specific thread title?

obviously fishing for a sucker. you got me.
 
jke406 said:
If all you need is a pilot, why on earth did you find it necessary for that specific thread title?

obviously fishing for a sucker. you got me.
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Why not put on your pilot uniform...jumpseat to DTW and travel to the inner city and represent?

I don't think you have the character nor the ability to control your fear to do so.....


You don't have to be a female to belong to WIA, you don't have to be white to belong to OPAP.
 
Did you mean "you dont have to be black to belong to OBAP"? Just curious.
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
Why not put on your pilot uniform...jumpseat to DTW and travel to the inner city and represent?

I don't think you have the character nor the ability to control your fear to do so.....


You don't have to be a female to belong to WIA, you don't have to be white to belong to OPAP.
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Rez:
Don't waste your time....
This is the same idiot posting as tanker clown. He isn't even a pilot. Do yourself a favor and put him on your ignore list along with tanker clown.

737
 
jke406 said:
The title of this thread implies that one specific demographic of pilot is preferred for this requirement.

Isn't that racism?
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Let me explain something to you. I wrote this in a post last night but it got deleted. I grew up in Detroit on the Northwest side of the city. Almost everyone around me worked for GM, Ford, and Chrysler. That's all most folks knew.....working the floor on the auto plant. I had never met a pilot in my life and quite honestly, didn't know that was something I could do.

I didn't know of, or heard one story about Black airline pilots. I would never be able to explain enough in just words how you could be in an environment that puts you in a place where you feel like you only have a few options. I don't think most folks on this board would be able to understand what the "cycle" is and exactly how hard it is to break that "cycle".

It took meeting a pilot, that happened to be a member of OBAP, who had come from the same background as I did, to really understand that that career path was something that was available to me and something I could succeed at. I was 17 years old at the time and have been a member of OBAP ever since.

So, in short, jke, quite being an idiot. If you want to go talk to kids in school in Detroit, go right ahead. It's not racist at all for someone to ask for a pilot from OBAP to talk to kids at schools in Detroit. If anything, it would be extremely beneficial for kids to actually see and talk to someone like them that "made it".
 
psycho said:
My child's Teacher is interested in having a Pilot present to a 2nd grade class during Black History Month. Our shhool is located in the northeast suburbs of Detroit. If anyone has any availability, please PM me and we can share details.

Thanks
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I'll PM you by tonight psycho.
 
jke406 said:
The title of this thread implies that one specific demographic of pilot is preferred for this requirement.

Isn't that racism?
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Go place your vote for Huckabe or Romney. Your so stupid on so many levels I can't even respond to your posts.

My vote for Hillary keeps meaning more the more you talk.
 
psycho said:
My child's Teacher is interested in having a Pilot present to a 2nd grade class during Black History Month. Our shhool is located in the northeast suburbs of Detroit. If anyone has any availability, please PM me and we can share details.

Thanks
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Hey bro,

I am a member have been for over 12 yrs and was was born and raised in Dtown so I know my way around. I moved away in the 90's but my family still lives there. I think I have a DTW trip this month let me check and get back to you. Just as long as I can do it while I'm on my trip I would be glad to.

I do these a couple of times a year and the last one I brought several of my friends all members from different airlines.

WD
 
I think peoples' problem with OBAP isn't it's work, but its principle. Kind of like the United Negro College Fund. Why is one race given special programs and scholarships when others aren't?

If an association for White American-Italian Pilots (WAP) was founded and promoted scholarships only white Italians could get, I'm sure Jesse and Al would be raising hell. It's a double standard. This is the ill will I think a lot of people have with OBAP.

Now the basic issue of educating the inner city kids about opportunities... that's a good thing. ALPA should be involved with it as well as OBAP. Everyone should.
 
John Pennekamp said:
I think peoples' problem with OBAP isn't it's work, but its principle. Kind of like the United Negro College Fund. Why is one race given special programs and scholarships when others aren't?
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Uh, maybe because there's a couple hundred years of history of racism? There's no "White Pilot's Association" because there's no need for one.
 
John Pennekamp said:
I think peoples' problem with OBAP isn't it's work, but its principle. Kind of like the United Negro College Fund. Why is one race given special programs and scholarships when others aren't?

If an association for White American-Italian Pilots (WAP) was founded and promoted scholarships only white Italians could get, I'm sure Jesse and Al would be raising hell. It's a double standard. This is the ill will I think a lot of people have with OBAP.

Now the basic issue of educating the inner city kids about opportunities... that's a good thing. ALPA should be involved with it as well as OBAP. Everyone should.
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Dont respond to this ******************************bag. He said in an earlier post that he fears obama getting elected and taking advantage of black power to control the white population. This guy is a racist.
 
John Pennekamp said:
I think peoples' problem with OBAP isn't it's work, but its principle. Kind of like the United Negro College Fund. Why is one race given special programs and scholarships when others aren't?

If an association for White American-Italian Pilots (WAP) was founded and promoted scholarships only white Italians could get, I'm sure Jesse and Al would be raising hell. It's a double standard. This is the ill will I think a lot of people have with OBAP.

Now the basic issue of educating the inner city kids about opportunities... that's a good thing. ALPA should be involved with it as well as OBAP. Everyone should.
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John,

Make sure you dont throw in colors with your white hood. I recommend washing your white costume together with your uniform with clorox bleach.
 
A lot in life has to do with having good examples to follow. Regardless of race, a lot of kids are getting raised these days in single parent households. These kids do not receive the benefit of seeing how both parents "made it" in this World.

Big Brothers / Big Sisters, OBAP, WIA, any of these organizations that help kids, deserve credit for what they are doing. I've met a couple of very good people who benefitted. It is just about helping out your neghbor and being charitable - qualities that are virtues.

Also - our profession needs more positive PR. There are not that many "Pilot" drawings on the aspirational walls of third grade classrooms any more.
 
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Max Powers said:
Go place your vote for Huckabe or Romney. Your so stupid on so many levels I can't even respond to your posts.

My vote for Hillary keeps meaning more the more you talk.
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If you want to tell someone they are stupid, then make it sound a bit more intelligent:

You're so stupid...
 
Thanks for some very positive comments so far from most of the people on this thread. My words this morning were a little harsh but definitely applicable to Clueless types like Pennekamp and 406. My god I hope you two never procreate!!

My life was changed by a pilot who took some time to point me in the right direction and I think these Kids would benefit greatly from a presentation.

Wiskey Driver and D-Bo, I will follow up with both of you as soon as I can and hopefully we can make this work. Thanks a million.
 
Racism is racism. Organizations such as OBAP feel it is acceptable to have a race-based agenda because their constituents have historically been persecuted. I, and others, disagree. If this society is to progress to one of color-blindness (the ideal as espoused by MLK) then organizations that are race-based continue to perpetuate racism. Taking the emotion out of this touchy subject, I fail to see how anyone can argue this important point. Attempting to "right" a wrong with another wrong (affirmative action) is wrong, IMO.

The Organization of Black Airline Pilots is clearly a group of individuals identified by their race. The same goes for the Congressional Black Caucus (promotes causes of interest in the black community), the United Negro College Fund (ostensibly funds gathered benefit only blacks), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (again the organization's title appears self-explanatory).

I do not support any organization which attempts to divide our society based on race, gender or sexual orientation. For this reason, I am also not a proponent of Women In Aviation.

If not now, then when exactly do we internalize the teachings of great civil rights leaders and start treating (judging) each other by the content of one's character rather than the color of one's skin? The same question goes for gender?



BBB
 
So I guess I shouldn't start up OCRAP?

I'll call it the Organization of Conservative Republican Airline Pilots. Might help some of my other bro's get jobs...
 

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