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Hpilot, Love the avatar!!!! Wish I could order one of those !!
 
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General Lee said:
Also, how many times have I proven you wrong on this board? Many times. You need to back up your claims, really.
Bye Bye--General Lee
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GL, you have proven nothing other than you talk/type over, through and past everyone here.

There has been no merger as of yet, no agreed to anything between MEC's. Much of your "proof" is quoted press statements, and you seem to think RA is actually going to keep his word, as if it was Gospel, cause' he said so in the press.

You seem to be engaged in a continuous DMC over mine is bigger, better, etc., and make the assumption that there are only two kinds of pilots - DAL pilots and those who want to be.

I'm not sure how this thing will play out, but personally have no desire to wear a DAL uniform, and hope that your hubris is not typical of the breed.
 
Diesel-9 said:
The mighty 767. Slow, doesn't even carry the standard cargo containers. Cost them 100's of orders on it. The bastard child of Boeing airplanes. Boeing even considers it a Middle Airplane Category type and not a widebody except for the last model. Carry on LT Lee.
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I've never heard of a "Middle Airplane Category". What's that?

Good aircraft tend to get large orders. Boeing has done relatively well with the wide bodied 767 series. 946 deliveries and counting. Do you think the A330 family will reach that many deliveries? They've delivered just over 500 A330s to date. They might catch up.
 
Diesel-9 said:
The mighty 767. Slow, doesn't even carry the standard cargo containers. Cost them 100's of orders on it. The bastard child of Boeing airplanes. Boeing even considers it a Middle Airplane Category type and not a widebody except for the last model. Carry on LT Lee.
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Thanks Mstr Sargent. How is that DHL contract going on your cargo birds? But hey, I am sure you will find a replacement.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Fly4hire said:
GL, you have proven nothing other than you talk/type over, through and past everyone here.

There has been no merger as of yet, no agreed to anything between MEC's. Much of your "proof" is quoted press statements, and you seem to think RA is actually going to keep his word, as if it was Gospel, cause' he said so in the press.

You seem to be engaged in a continuous DMC over mine is bigger, better, etc., and make the assumption that there are only two kinds of pilots - DAL pilots and those who want to be.

I'm not sure how this thing will play out, but personally have no desire to wear a DAL uniform, and hope that your hubris is not typical of the breed.
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My point is that you like to post things that are not backed up by facts. You said NWA had "domestic" flights within Japan, and I proved it was a flag stop to Saipan from NRT via Nagoya. You stated a merged carrier HAD TO BE NAMED NWA, even though that was eventually shown as incorrect. You like to slam me, but can't get it right yourself. Just back up what you post.

My hubris is probably not typical, but my enjoyment of this board is obvious. I like the debate and banter. As far as a merger goes, I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does I hope it makes our combined DELTA stronger. I won't bid the DC9--you can bet on that. You can have it, while it lasts.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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General Lee said:
Thanks Mstr Sargent. How is that DHL contract going on your cargo birds? But hey, I am sure you will find a replacement.

Bye Bye--General Lee
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General can't handle it when you slam his beloved Delta. News flash for ya general, not everyone wants to fly for DAL. I know in your mind you think it's the best airline in history and will continue to be so. Whatever gets ya to sleep at night. Keep believin what you read and believin whats gonna happen if DAL merges with another carrier.

Only a few thousand more to the next magical number....BRAVO!!
 
Occam's Razor said:
DAL has a lousy balance sheet! They have almost twice the debt, without twice the revenue, of NWA!
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I've heard lots of folks say what a horrible job Delta did in BK, and others say how awesome they did (for example, did you know that their MD-80 lease rates weht down to 80,000 per month, down from 280,000 per month, and they are getting MD-90's from China for 9 mil each, including engines, which is cheaper than an RJ and their mechanics already know how to work on them and they have the sims? :nuts:

But anyway, While I have heard NWA has superior (less) debt, just to play Devil's advocate, isn't that largely attributable to their large fleet of DC-9's which soon will be on the way out and in need of replacement? And of course NWA has more widebodies on order than DAL does (pretty sure about that, but not 100%) so once all that dust settles, NWA's debt will be considerably more than it is now, right?

And how does UAL, AA, and CAL's debt both now and going forward look by comparison?
 
Zipperhead said:
General can't handle it when you slam his beloved Delta. News flash for ya general, not everyone wants to fly for DAL. I know in your mind you think it's the best airline in history and will continue to be so. Whatever gets ya to sleep at night. Keep believin what you read and believin whats gonna happen if DAL merges with another carrier.

Only a few thousand more to the next magical number....BRAVO!!
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A lot of your Jetblue guys have been hired here lately. Of course I have to wonder why, when you now have that flow down with Cape Air.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
A lot of your Jetblue guys have been hired here lately. Of course I have to wonder why, when you now have that flow down with Cape Air.

Bye Bye--General Lee
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Flow Down? Whatever you think there genius....
Kinda like your flow down to Comair...and don't just copy and paste another article you read on the internet somewhere. I can do that all day long as well. Oh, I forget, you know it all and Delta management is the best and Delta will never be bought and NEVER file bankruptcy again.
 
Zipperhead said:
Flow Down? Whatever you think there genius....
Kinda like your flow down to Comair...and don't just copy and paste another article you read on the internet somewhere. I can do that all day long as well. Oh, I forget, you know it all and Delta management is the best and Delta will never be bought and NEVER file bankruptcy again.
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We should take bets on when DAL files again. I do have a question. If after BK their 88 leases went from 280K a month to $80K, what can you get them down to in another trip thru BK? $0?

If Delta mgt was so good, why did they ever accept such crappy leases? I personally feel that convenient trips through Ch 11 is about on par with gov subsidies. Call me a Darwinist, but Delta should have had to sink or swim in the free market. It's sad they had to go the hand out route.
 
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Tanker Clown said:
We should take bets on when DAL files again. I do have a question. If after BK their 88 leases went from 280K a month to $80K, what can you get them down to in another trip thru BK? $0?

If Delta mgt was so good, why did they ever accept such crappy leases? I personally feel that convenient trips through Ch 11 is about on par with gov subsidies. Call me a Darwinist, but Delta should have had to sink or swim in the free market. It's sad they had to go the hand out route.
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Tanker,
Not sure where your hard on for DAL is based from, but the BK laws are what they are. Legacies had spent a generation building pilot, and employee, wages and benefits that were the envy of the industry from an employees point of view. Then a recession and 9-11 knocked the bottom out of the industry allowing the LCC's with no retirement, lower wages, shatty medical coverage etc to proliferate and thrive. The industry ball had moved, so by your logic, the legacies shouldn't have tried to adapt and compete, but should have just folded up shop and went under. The only way you gut a negotiated contract is put the fear of god in the pilot group(AA) or drive the bus to the edge of the cliff and declare BK and get the judge to impose (or threaten to impose) a new contract on the group. (all other legacies)
Fact is you hide in the Military, claim to be a pilot, but if you plan on working in this industry some day, I suggest you come to realize that each company is filled with pilot professionals trying to earn as much money with the best QOL and benefits possible.
If you plan to save every nickle, retire from the AF with no family or life and not work in the industry, then do us a favor and log off. You routinely add nothing to the conversation and come off as a bitter tool. At least the GL loves his company, why don't you get on here and tell us how great the AF is in the military forum, I'm sure the recruiters would love to hear your glamour stories of 90 day stints in Al Udeid.
Luv
 
Superpilot92 said:
That car is sweet. I found a proto-type picture of concept trans-am that looks pretty good also. link below

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/camaro_trans-am_concept.jpg

http://www.millstonegraphics.com/transam/taconcept40TH2.jpg
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Nice links. I put money down to hold an order for the 427(modern ZL-1) version soon to be anounced. If they change their mind I get the money back otherwise I figure it's worth the extra 10k. I had a COPO camaro back in the day, but sold it to start a business.
 
Hpilot said:
Nice links. I put money down to hold an order for the 427(modern ZL-1) version soon to be anounced. If they change their mind I get the money back otherwise I figure it's worth the extra 10k. I had a COPO camaro back in the day, but sold it to start a business.
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Nice!! I have an 05 GTO LS2 6 speed. I love it but i would sell it to get a new challenger:beer:
 

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