ASA D-0 Flight Crew Babysitting

[John Pennekamp]

what exactly tees you off about the people over here..there are certain groups that are mindful of their profession and do it extremely well. you have to understand that my group is going on two years of our contract without a full pay raise just like your pilot group was. our contract was up in feb of 2006 and next month is feb 2008. so that is two years into it w/o getting what we deserve. your pilot group wasnt as easy to work with when you werent getting things accomplished with your contract. you went 5 years..so in reality we have another 3 years to go before we see any news on our negotation. they are already saying that money isnt coming for us. expect moral over here to be just as bad as what we took from you.....we arent happy either. we are losing ppl right and left and neewbies are coming on board. and i am talking good dispatchers..people that know their crap...in the past 6 mnths you lost a 14 year, 11 year, a couple of 6 year dispatchers. so if the person on the other end of the phone doesnt know what they are talking about or you hear that
"dissipating" word that i know you really hate..then its the own companys fault for not making an effort to keep the quality of people we have. our dispatch group is 48 ppl strong...48 48 48 48 48....48 people that have so much control and directly effect money in their pockets with fuel and alt selections. it never going to get any better here and its a shame that i have been here for 12 already!!!!

I wasn't referring to you DXers in my anti GO rant. And it does suck that you guys are getting hosed on the contract like we did. I assure you that when you guys are ready to flex and cost the company some money, guys like me will be behind you.

As for the FNG DX telling me to fly my ATRah through a line of "dissipating" TS with "plenty of gaps". My response is always... "Um yeah. How about this. Let's either delay the flight an hour or two, or put 6000# on and go to MYR via HRS-SOT-FAY-CRE". They usually back down and pick one of the two options.

 

[ASA DX]

I wasn't referring to you DXers in my anti GO rant. And it does suck that you guys are getting hosed on the contract like we did. I assure you that when you guys are ready to flex and cost the company some money, guys like me will be behind you.

As for the FNG DX telling me to fly my ATRah through a line of "dissipating" TS with "plenty of gaps". My response is always... "Um yeah. How about this. Let's either delay the flight an hour or two, or put 6000# on and go to MYR via HRS-SOT-FAY-CRE". They usually back down and pick one of the two options.

okay so just take the "shut up fuel and reroute"..haha

like i said i wont be flexing..i have already broke my friend. i expect to be outta here shortly. so when you get that release and you look at name on it say to yourself, "who the heck is so-so dispatching me today i have never heard of them"...you will know why. heck you are probably already saying that considering who we lost already. i just cant be a team player anymore..my team is here in my house, and thats who i play for in the long run. i have to look out for that team...

 

[John Pennekamp]

like i said i wont be flexing..i have already broke my friend. i expect to be outta here shortly. so when you get that release and you look at name on it say to yourself, "who the heck is so-so dispatching me today i have never heard of them"...you will know why. heck you are probably already saying that considering who we lost already. i just cant be a team player anymore..my team is here in my house, and thats who i play for in the long run. i have to look out for that team...

Too bad to hear that. I know we have lost a lot of talent, which is unfortunate. Good luck to you.

 

[ASA DX]

Too bad to hear that. I know we have lost a lot of talent, which is unfortunate. Good luck to you.

thanks..same to you.

 

[ohplease!]

Bingo. And I guarantee their story will be the one believed. I talk to NO ONE.

You keep acting like the arrogantass you usually do and one of the "homeboys" is going to just make something up. And with your reputation, I too can "guarantee" they will be believed over you.

There are a few bad apples in the cart but for the most part, those guys/gals bust their butt doing more with less too.

I promiss it won't hurt you to walk up for the relase. We did it long ago in ATL and always did it in DFW. This too you will survive.

 

[John Pennekamp]

You keep acting like the arrogantass you usually do and one of the "homeboys" is going to just make something up. And with your reputation, I too can "guarantee" they will be believed over you.

There are a few bad apples in the cart but for the most part, those guys/gals bust their butt doing more with less too.

I promiss it won't hurt you to walk up for the relase. We did it long ago in ATL and always did it in DFW. This too you will survive.

That would be legitimate coming from anybody other than you alan. Arrogant ass? Oh please!

 

[DOVPILOT]

PHL Airways or ATL Delta for worst regional ground handling.

Fight on!

Philly F concourse hands down

 

[John Pennekamp]

All of you who don't think this is a big deal are missing the point.

The point is that instead of DELTA holding DELTA EMPLOYEES accountable, they are putting that burden off on us. Now I have to watch that everything happens according to the time line, and call in if it doesn't. If I fail to do that, the reason for the delay will be put on me. "Dat pilot didn't tell us dat airplane ain't done been fueled and cleaned! Crew delay".

 

[Papa Woody]

All of you who don't think this is a big deal are missing the point.

The point is that instead of DELTA holding DELTA EMPLOYEES accountable, they are putting that burden off on us. Now I have to watch that everything happens according to the time line, and call in if it doesn't. If I fail to do that, the reason for the delay will be put on me. "Dat pilot didn't tell us dat airplane ain't done been fueled and cleaned! Crew delay".

Exactly.

Now that they whittled away wages to the scraplets that they are, they expand the job description of those slaves in the "portfolio."

 

[atlcrjdriver]

All of you who don't think this is a big deal are missing the point.
The point is that instead of DELTA holding DELTA EMPLOYEES accountable, they are putting that burden off on us. Now I have to watch that everything happens according to the time line, and call in if it doesn't. If I fail to do that, the reason for the delay will be put on me. "Dat pilot didn't tell us dat airplane ain't done been fueled and cleaned! Crew delay".

If you arrive at your A/C and it hasn't been svcd then wouldn't common sense say to tell someone. Now your job is done, if the A/C is still not svcd and causes a delay then alert your dispatcher/ops that this is what caused the delay. You can now do this via acars. I know picking up the hand mic is a very painful for you but, many times, it does work.

Again
Relax, Do your job and Communicate your needs