Captain John Travolta wears his uniform out on the town!!

[bubbers44]

How do you get all of those ******'s to come after bull********************? Great computer editing program.

 

[iflyhigh72]

Cant be any worse then seeing regional pilots in full uniform at WalMart!!! :beer:

I just saw a Comair knuckle head the other day in Cincinnati at a Walmart with the leather coat on and the hat shopping for deodorant. I even snapped a pic with my celly. Thinking of posting it.

 

[waveflyer]

I just saw a Comair knuckle head the other day in Cincinnati at a Walmart with the leather coat on and the hat shopping for deodorant. I even snapped a pic with my celly. Thinking of posting it.

Do it.

You've got to now. For the good of the industry(!)

 

[VVJM265]

Second hand info: I heard from a guy who flew as a contract FE for him that the 707 is not his but a perk on loan to him from the studio.

 

[VVJM265]

Wave off - too deep and too serious for this crowd!

All present day, "reputable" religions were once cults too. The world doesn't have room for another religion. That's why many "start-up" religions have trouble. The established religions have been around for so many years that they have become accepted as legitimate. For all one knows, David Koresh (Waco, TX 1993) could have been the next Jesus or Messiah if given the chance. Every religion has some outlandish mystical beliefs that have never been proven to have actually occured.

Religion is what you choose to believe. You are born into a particular religion. God is not a sole entity belonging to a particular religion, but rather an energy we create and energize.

Man has the mental capacity to comprehend a force greater than himself and conceptualize it as a god who presides over a particular religion. In primitive times, the world/universe had a very complex structure that man could not understand due to the lack of science and technology available. What could not be easily explained through humanly pragmatic thought was assessed/concluded to be attributed to a higher being who oversaw and had great discretionary influence over our existence. In other words, god was responsible for the unexplainable. The church was an important spirtiual part which provided direction and guidance to those willing to believe.

Religon provided a means to a proper and pious life which meant success and good luck. Every religon has the same generic framework. There are rules which one must adhere to in order to benefit in the afterlife. One is promised eternal bliss for living a finite mortal existence within a defined set of rules or behaviors.

Anyway, at some point during the enlightment period, science had advanced to the point of debunking many truths of the church. Clearly, science was becoming more reliable than religion.

Society requires cooperation, otherwise chaos will soon ensue. The three main devices in place are Religion, Penal Law and Moral/Ethical codes. These facilities help maintain predictable order and cooperation and provide a line of defense.

One needs to instill the fear of an all-knowing and seeing god inside a child. This child is developing their understanding of and interaction with, soceity. They must be groomed to fit in and obey the laws which have been created to ensure a stable people. That child must be made to believe that even if no one is looking, a omnipotent god lerks, who knows and see all. Laws and moral codes also provide and promote similar modes of conduct.

anyway....

 

[DrewBlows]

Well, for starters, my religion isn't based off of a failed screenplay called "Revolt in the Stars" written by a science fiction author who once said "you don't get rich by writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." A couple of years later, Scientology was born. If it was just a bunch of rich actors, I probably wouldn't care. The problem is that the rich actors are just the ones that get the media attention. This a large organization with many members from the lower and middle classes that fork out virtual fortuned to this "church" for auditing, courses, and various other products and services. These people can barely afford to get by, but they've been brainwashed by this group to believe that they need to give as much money as possible to the COS so they can achieve some higher "operating thetan level" to become happier and healthier. This organization is dangerous, and it most certainly is not victimless.

Step back for a minute and read what you wrote. If you take out the Scientology references you could be talking about any religion in the world.

 

[PCL_128]

Step back for a minute and read what you wrote. If you take out the Scientology references you could be talking about any religion in the world.

I think you need to do some more Scientology research. If you really look into this, you'll realize that there is really no comparison. Scientology isn't a religion, it's a cult.

 

[goodgig]

Anyone know if the Rolling Stone article about these quacks is on line? It was a great cliff notes to the whole thing, and actually made me lmao as I read it.
To call it anything but a cult is laughable. However, I consider just about any religion a cult. But this "religion" is even more so.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

No differerent than the exagerated claims made by the other various religions. Some of you mock the Muslim religion and their afterlife expectations. Is not heaven and hell just as absurd? Is turning water into wine and conjuring up limitless bread and fish, rising from the dead, parting the sea, large boats with jungle animals, etc. more believeable to you?

Truth is, the bible was written from anecdotes told many many years ago. No one who existed during those "times" were around when it can time to pen the good book.

Look, religion has it's purpose in a civilization. Religion isn't about a mystical person called god residing in an intangible world, but rather a way to live ones life.It is a doctrine one chooses to follow.

 

[say again]

I just saw a Comair knuckle head the other day in Cincinnati at a Walmart with the leather coat on and the hat shopping for deodorant. I even snapped a pic with my celly. Thinking of posting it.

hahaha, you really have to for all to see!!!!:laugh: great thinking getting the pic.:beer:

 

[JFReservist]

Amish Rake... You say that religion is a good thing, yet you assert all religions to be based on lies. So lying is a good thing for society as a whole?

 

[PCL_128]

No differerent than the exagerated claims made by the other various religions. Some of you mock the Muslim religion and their afterlife expectations. Is not heaven and hell just as absurd? Is turning water into wine and conjuring up limitless bread and fish, rising from the dead, parting the sea, large boats with jungle animals, etc. more believeable to you?

Truth is, the bible was written from anecdotes told many many years ago. No one who existed during those "times" were around when it can time to pen the good book.

Look, religion has it's purpose in a civilization. Religion isn't about a mystical person called god residing in an intangible world, but rather a way to live ones life.It is a doctrine one chooses to follow.

I don't mock the Muslim religion. I attack Muslim extremists, but that's completely different. I have no problem with people of any other legitimate religion: practicing Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Catholics, etc... All are legitimate religions; COS is a cult. You can't even get into the "church" without handing over a check for "auditing." It's a huge money-making machine based on a science-fiction author's fantasies and lust for money and fame. To compare this cult to a real religion is ridiculous.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Amish Rake... You say that religion is a good thing, yet you assert all religions to be based on lies. So lying is a good thing for society as a whole?

I hate getting into religious debate, especially over a message board. There is just too much to discuss to really convey a truly formidable and lucid explanation.

Most if not all organized religion is based on exagerated claims which lead to followers or disciples willing to believe and support a particular doctrine. A true believer of a religion will believe and not question the absurdity of what is being preached or stated. This is an ideal individual for a particular religious outfit.

Religion has it's purpose. It is sociological and spritual in nature. It has it's place in society.

An episode of South Park had exemplifed this to a degree. A new Mormon boy moved to SP and was taunted by the other boys about his "ridiculous" religion and absurd claims.

Here is how the show ended:

"Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense, and maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up, but I have a great life. and a great family, and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don't care if Joseph Smith made it all up, because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that's stupid, I still choose to believe in it. All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls. [turns around and walks off. All four boys just look at him in wonder, even Cartman.]"

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Chew on this:

Physicist and Nobel prizewinner Stephen Weinberg describes religion as an insult to human dignity. 'Without it,' he says, 'you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.' Dawkins agrees. It is more moral, he says, to do good for its own sake than out of fear. Morality, he says, is older than religion, and kindness and generosity are innate in human beings, as they are in other social animals. The irony is that science recognises the majesty and complexity of the universe while religions lead to easy, closed answers.

 

[PCL_128]

As usual, Dawkins says something that is unprovable (strange for a supposed scientist): that morality predates religion. How can he know this? Every ancient civilization had some form of religion. As best we can tell, religion dates back to the beginnings of human civilization. Human beings have always believed in some form of higher power and religious ideals of right and wrong. He says that a basic sense of morality is innate in human beings. Again, this is unproven. No scientific evidence backs up this claim. Dawkin's own brand of anti-religious fervor is in itself a form of religion. Dawkin's hatred of all religion is his own religion.