SWA announcement on the 9th

[YourPilotFriend]

The only thing SWA will be buying is its oversold stock back. I think you will see SWA parking the older aircraft and uping the utilization of the others to aviod furloughs. With the credit card crisis looming on the horizon, capacity is needing to be cut.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Good luck to all thoughs at the bottom of the SWA seniority list. Furloughs are no doubt in the future.

 

[B727Driver]

that means Tanker Clown won't be there anytime soon.....there is a God! This allows you to add to your 2800+ hrs. Stay in the military world, you don't know squat about airlines.
By the way, no furloughs, nice try.

 

[Tanker Clown]

that means Tanker Clown won't be there anytime soon.....there is a God! This allows you to add to your 2800+ hrs. Stay in the military world, you don't know squat about airlines.
By the way, no furloughs, nice try.

Loads are down from last year, oil is $100 a barrel and going higher, only one class in Jan and that's probably it for the year....I think a furlough has about a 50/50 chance. SWA may have great culture, but in the end it's a business....and if they needed to furlough then they would they would furlough.

 

[JumpJetter]

Loads are down from last year, oil is $100 a barrel and going higher, only one class in Jan and that's probably it for the year....I think a furlough has about a 50/50 chance. SWA may have great culture, but in the end it's a business....and if they needed to furlough then they would they would furlough.

you mean like they DIDN'T furlough after 9-11? You're new around here, huh?

 

[Lear70]

Loads are down from last year, oil is $100 a barrel and going higher, only one class in Jan and that's probably it for the year....I think a furlough has about a 50/50 chance.

Doubt it.

They'd have to shrink CONSIDERABLY for that to happen.

SWA may have great culture, but in the end it's a business....and if they needed to furlough then they would they would furlough.

Historically, that's not exactly accurate.

Southwest has gone through periods where furloughs WOULD have made good business sense, but were short-term (6 months or so) before they'd need to start bringing people back.

In those cases, they've always retained them and just sucked up the extra cost and lowered the line value averages (there's some history on Southwest about this if you'll do a little research).

Things would have to be pretty dire indeed for SWA to get to that point... With their hedges over the next few years plus their profitability, I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Not that they're immune, just well-insulated from needing to screw with their employees like that (they understand what that does to people and have avoided it quite well over the years).

 

[Tanker Clown]

Ask a SWA guy, Herb isn't running the place anymore. GK would furlough to get the stock price up if he needed to. You guys thought I was crazy when I said that classes would pretty much come to a stop. And they did. In '01 oil was still in the $20s. SWA guys were on the very low side of the pay scale and they company had a bunch of markets it could exploit. Now oil is at $100, SWA guys are the highest paid, and the only markets left to grow in are the NY type places that are at odds with the way SWA works.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I don't think anyone will get furloughed, however, I could see SWA pulling out of some cities and moving aircraft to places where they can be used better. there will be virtually no growth in this industry until a 737/A320&19/DC9/717 replacement. That is what...at least 2015?

 

[Tanker Clown]

I agree with what all of you guys are saying, but in the end, it's a business. Kind of like the line from Jerry McGuire (sp), "It's not show-friends, it's show-business."

This GK seems to be as loyal to the stock holders as he is to the employee groups.

 

[Daddy]

What a bunch of tools

 

[FlyinGuy]

Hey tanker...are you the new "lowecur"??? Just shooting out a bunch of hot air about predictions that you made and how you have all the answers for SWA...

 

[chris69]

Went to EPT recently...I figured it was better to go to the class instead of opting for the home version...which was a big mistake since we did it via the computer anyways, which took 3+ hours more than the old personal version. The main reason I opted to attend was to discuss some of the items many of the Captains and I have grumbled over the last 6 months. In a nutshell, times are tough. If it's not revenue positive, GK will not approve it. 5-10 aircraft gain next year and some 700's will leave the fleet along with old 300's. Cheaper than the overhall. Still taking 29? new, however. The revised 280 newhires will be less than half now with age 65 and the rehiring of those who previously retired coming back as FO's. I came away pretty positive considering the times we are heading into. Another perfect storm with the economy, age 65, fuel costs and global events. This is probably not what the poolies want to hear, but I sat in it from the fall of 01 to the spring of 03 too, so, I'd say, try to stay positive and look on the bright side of things as best you can.
Chris

 

[jke406]

I agree with what all of you guys are saying, but in the end, it's a business. Kind of like the line from Jerry McGuire (sp), "It's not show-friends, it's show-business."

This GK seems to be as loyal to the stock holders as he is to the employee groups.

One of my friends tipped me off. I think I know who this moron is. I think his first name is Les. Complete tool to all of those who know him. He got into trouble a couple years back for some impropriety (founded a website involving himself and his neighbors' dogs and cats) so it's unlikely that he will be hired anywhere at any time.

Strangely, though, his predictions have been solid.

 

[captain007]

I heard they are in the works of building a new terminal. More gates and new terminal in kden for swa. One of my friends that lives in the den area read it in a news paper.

**might be late on this post****

 

[f9r]

There have been discussions in the past about expanding the C concourse but nothing recently (at least not publicly). I guess we'll find out in a few days.