How to tell if you are flying with someone that has passed 60

[Occam's Razor]

What would you youngn's do if you didn't have us old geezers to kick around?

Move up quicker?

Enjoy your youth while it lasts, and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

I'll try...and you, too, amigo!

 

[flygirlqt]

Erectile pump falls out of suitcase during TSA search

 

[Benhuntn]

Every time he explains how to improve your flying you realize he is 10x more knowledgeable than you.

 

[Spooky 2]

I guess my group relates to those that we followed and frankly enjoyed flying with, and yes there were more than a few characters in the group. Like the guys who flew the B17s, B24s and even a few B29 guys in the group. Then there was our CP/VP Flt Ops who had spent 3 years as a German POW after being shot down in his P51 along with another "character" who had played a kid in the Our Gang movies before becoming a P47 pilot and also having shot down over Germany. Same guy who got the nose of a B707 off the ground before realizing that there was a flight control jammed and managed to get the thing back on the runway and stopped without killing anyone or wrecking the airplane. I won't even bore you with the Vietnam drivel as these pilots brought a whle new dimension to our operation and you think your careers are so damaged because of this age 65 debacle that has been heaped upon you. Hell there guys in that spent 10+ years on the panel before even getting a window seat. So suck it up, get involved in your association, or get a new one (probably a bad idea!) but stop whining and posting all the insults as it makes you look like complete morons. many before you have done more, been more, and continue to carry the water without all the whining. One more time, don't worry about this little blip on your careers and watch out for the crooks running your companies. They are the real dangers lurking ahead

Merry Christmas

 

[bubbers44]

The small percentage of weak senior pilots does not rate the copilot's juvenile way of expressing their anger at how congress changed the rules. Grow up.

 

[bubbers44]

Most senior captains who had to retire at 60 were very sharp and the old law never seemed fair to me even when I was very junior. I hope the junior pilots who have been bashing will not just look at their temporary stagnation and look at what these people still have to offer. If getting his job is your goal then You are a very selfish person, not him.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Every time he explains how to improve your flying you realize he is 10x more knowledgeable than you.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Good one!

"Knowledge"?

Like Rainman?

It's about decisions. Decisions are knowledge processing. Please tell me you knew that, cuz I'd hate to think you didn't process that bit well.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Most senior captains who had to retire at 60 were very sharp and the old law never seemed fair to me even when I was very junior.

"Most".

When asked how many airline flights in the US are being operated at optimum safety...the answer is supposed to be "most"?

Being under age 60 doesn't necessarily make a pilot "safer", but it tends to reduce the odds the pilot has an age-induced loss of reflexes and/or cognitive ability. How do we know? Cuz they picked an age! They chose 65! Was it based on any empirical data or research...or was the number (my favorite part!) arbitrary?

Naturally, the age one starts to lose his/her edge varies by individual. Just as naturally, we don't test for cognitive abilty and we don't make rules for "individuals". Need proof? Some of us were ready to be ATP's before age 23. Some weren't ready until much later.

Congress...those aviation experts, jammed a rule down the throat of the FAA. Unless you're prepared to say everything Congress does makes sense, you might wanna present a better argument than "most 60 year pilots are safe".

 

[ASADriver]

You sound a little bitter Occam. What's the problem. ALPA endorsed it.

 

[Occam's Razor]

You sound a little bitter Occam. What's the problem. ALPA endorsed it.

Bitter...me?

Nah.

I don't like changes like this without a compelling reason to change them. I'm still waiting for that reason.

You know how the membership of ALPA feels about the issue. I'm not upset with my union over the change...the issue was divisive. If ALPA was going to issue an "endorsement" for/against abortion, I suspect it would be divisive too.

I'm a Big Picture guy with enough free time to tap away on issues like this.