How will 65 effect hiring at Atlas/Polar

[jsand757]

Anyone know how age 65 will effect AAWH hiring plans? Also any idea what class dates are scheduled?

 

[808flyer]

I have a friend who is trying to get into Polar and they told him that now there are 30 Polar guys sticking around since they can due to the age 65 ruling. No word on Atlas my guess is that it would be simular to Polar.

 

[cfire]

Atlas has recently done a union coordinated preferential hiring of the recently furloughed guys from Kitty Hawk. I think they hired a class of 12 for a Jan 7 class. Age 65 has allowed a few not to retire and a few F/E's to come back as pilots. So it has stagnated hiring some.

Polar also has an arbitration going on on how they were downsized and that will affect hiring pending it's outcome. Recent hiring at Polar was over reserve requirements for the recent DHL deal.

 

[Miami Freight]

I have a friend who is trying to get into Polar and they told him that now there are 30 Polar guys sticking around since they can due to the age 65 ruling. No word on Atlas my guess is that it would be simular to Polar.

Who is this mysterious "they". There hasn't been a survey by the Company to determine anyones future plans. I don't think any Company is going to predict how long any one is going to stay around. You can do one scenario by assuming everyone eligible to stay till 65 does so and manages to not lose their medical. It's any ones best guess, if you want to work somewhere apply and try to get the job. Predicting when you will get off reserve, hold a certain base, upgrade etc was impossible for the past five years, it will be beyond impossible now.

 

[johnsonrod]

Atlas has recently done a union coordinated preferential hiring of the recently furloughed guys from Kitty Hawk. I think they hired a class of 12 for a Jan 7 class. Age 65 has allowed a few not to retire and a few F/E's to come back as pilots. So it has stagnated hiring some.

Polar also has an arbitration going on on how they were downsized and that will affect hiring pending it's outcome. Recent hiring at Polar was over reserve requirements for the recent DHL deal.

Good for those guys. That's a nice X-Mas present. Will they be put on the 747 200s or 400s?

 

[cfire]

Good for those guys. That's a nice X-Mas present. Will they be put on the 747 200s or 400s?

Both A/C on the Atlas side

 

[cr7driver]

At Atlas, they originally planned to hire 100 this year, but 65 has changed all that. Now, they may hire 60.

 

[johnsonrod]

Both A/C on the Atlas side

I'm a little out of the loop so I apologize. Does that mean the newhires will start out of STN (commute to Standsted)? Or have things changed where newhires can now bid bases in the US?

How many Kitty Hawk pilots were picked up?

Happy holidays.

 

[sgu]

All new hires at Atlas will be based in STN. Merry Christmas.

 

[cr7driver]

Commute to STN: As I understand it, Atlas pays for you ticket from your gateway city out to STN and then pays for your hotel on reserve or until your first assignment. So, it is comuting, but without the jumpseating or sleeping in a crashpad bit.

 

[sgu]

The company will provide an airline ticket. Most likely economy unless the flights are full then a business class seat to your departure city or a city that makes sense for you to sit reserve for a couple of days. For example you may have some reserve days prior to a trip starting. It would make sense to sit reserve at the scheduled departure city rather than going to another and commuting again. AMS and FRA are common cities to sit reserve due to the proximity of DUS, HHN and the wide reach of KLM and Lufthansa.
Yes the company covers hotel and ground transport as well.

 

[JediNein]

Does anyone have the quals for the FO/FE positions at Atlas or Polar? Their company sites don't list anything.

Thanks!

 

[spitfire1500]

Im 40 doing Int'l longhaul cargo.....I dont see my ass doing it for another 25 years!

 

[johnsonrod]

Im 40 doing Int'l longhaul cargo.....I dont see my ass doing it for another 25 years!

That's a good way to look 65 when you are 50... I'd probably still take the job though if offered...

 

[johnnyb]

Atlas has recently done a union coordinated preferential hiring

Atlas just interviewed and hired a large chunk of Kitty Hawk Furloughed guys under an Atlas union MEC coordinated preferential hiring agreement with management

Why do you feel such a need to spout off about how great union guys the Atlas pilots are?

 

[sgu]

I just see the facts, no gloating involved.

 

[PFTEXPJET]

I apoligize for my lack knowledge. How many day on and off are Atlas schedule? How is 1st year pay? Is there an override above 62 hours? If you live in the U.S., your homebased, but all newhire are based out of STN? They will fly you out your first day on but once you are in STN are you responsible for your lodging? Is this correct or am I way off? Do they type you? How is training? Thanks

 

[jsand757]

Heading down to mia on jan 28 for a polar 400 class. Class got bumped a week from the 21st anyone know why?

 

[Atccfi]

I apoligize for my lack knowledge. How many day on and off are Atlas schedule? How is 1st year pay? Is there an override above 62 hours? If you live in the U.S., your homebased, but all newhire are based out of STN? They will fly you out your first day on but once you are in STN are you responsible for your lodging? Is this correct or am I way off? Do they type you? How is training? Thanks

Also, if you are based in STN, are you considered a scab or is that just the european guys? What are the mins?

 

[Classicdriver]

Also, if you are based in STN, are you considered a scab or is that just the European guys? What are the mins?

First off, the STN guys, European or otherwise are not SCABs, so no, you would not be. There has to be a strike for there to be scabs, and Atlas has only had one chance to strike, and didn't in the last minutes for a multitude of reasons.

The STN base was originally a union busting tactic. It has serviced its purpose, has been neutralized and is only being filled with ALPA represented pilots.

BTW, a new base bid is out, and there will be some new hires going to LAX on the -400.