AGE 65 now LAW!!!

[Lear70]

My bro and I discussed this same thing today. I'm not going to say anything knee-jerk like I usually do, but I'm leaning towards your thinking. We're both in our early 30's at FDX and ready to do what you just said. We'll roll on the A fund to get a better B fund and higher F/O rates. My pension concerns are not as great if I have to fly to 65.

I'm not trying to be flippant... but that's kinda funny coming from a FDX pilot.

Your career average is about DOUBLE what every passenger Major/Legacy carrier career pay is, not even counting your A-fund.

Methinks the pax F/O's are a little more concerned about it than most FDX pilots. No offense intended,,, just struck me kind of funny that a FDX pilot would chime in about needing to make more on the front end when your 4-6 year F/O's make more than most Major/Legacy CA's these days.

Don't get me wrong, I think we ALL need to come up to AT LEAST FDX salaries, but I'd be perfectly content with FDX salaries plus COLA,,, that's just me of course.

Sorry for the thread hijack.

 

[Patriot328]

I supported this. I am a 2 year F/O who has been furloughed and will need these extra years to repair lots o damage. I may not make Capt right away and score all the hot F/As but it will be helpful in cushioning the blow of the last 4 years.

The sad thing is you think you're making more money out of the deal.. You're not. You're going to work to 62-63 for the same amount of money you would have to 60 because of the seniority stagnation for the next five years.

 

[PCL_128]

Now, the do-nothing gang is calling for massive changes at ALPA.... funny stuff..

Am I part of the "do nothing gang," Rez? Careful who you paint with that broad brush. Not all of us who opposed ALPA's position on this issue and how it came about are whiny little do-nothings.

 

[Andy Neill]

I am guessing this Age 60 bill is attached to some more important and visible motions (like education for kids and feeding the homeless, etc) hence the unanimous and speedy passage through.

Guess again. HR 4343 (now public law) was a stand alone measure. The ONLY thing in it was the age restriction change.
See this link:
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110Om1q7P::

 

[stonewall]

I'm not trying to be flippant... but that's kinda funny coming from a FDX pilot.

Your career average is about DOUBLE what every passenger Major/Legacy carrier career pay is, not even counting your A-fund.

Methinks the pax F/O's are a little more concerned about it than most FDX pilots. No offense intended,,, just struck me kind of funny that a FDX pilot would chime in about needing to make more on the front end when your 4-6 year F/O's make more than most Major/Legacy CA's these days.

Don't get me wrong, I think we ALL need to come up to AT LEAST FDX salaries, but I'd be perfectly content with FDX salaries plus COLA,,, that's just me of course.

Sorry for the thread hijack.

I see your point, but nobody seemed to be too concerned when the cargo guys were left behind in the 90's. I'm happy with our pay rates compared to the legacy guys and I'm not complaining about them. However, my CA upgrade is going to be delayed just as much as anyone at AA, United, CAL or Delta, and I thought that's what this is all about. I didn't think it was about relative pay rates. If 65 is wrong, it's wrong....no?

 

[redbook]

Do you renounce your US citizenship and take down your flag everytime the US gov't doesn't do it your way...

Maybe someone will come up to you and say no ALPA pin in 8 years huh? and you can let him have it...

Rez, you are typing too fast. That is a terrible analogy.

Loyalty to your country compared to loyalty to an abject failure of a union? Keep beating that ALPA drum.

 

[PCL_128]

BUCK FUSH!!!!!!!!!

I prefer PUCK FRATER!!!!!!!!

 

[redbook]

I see your point, but nobody seemed to be too concerned when the cargo guys were left behind in the 90's. I'm happy with our pay rates compared to the legacy guys and I'm not complaining about them. However, my CA upgrade is going to be delayed just as much as anyone at AA, United, CAL or Delta, and I thought that's what this is all about. I didn't think it was about relative pay rates. If 65 is wrong, it's wrong....no?

Absolutely. A fedex fo took a big hit with this development. It has nothing to do with relative pay rates.

 

[stonewall]

Does Bush even know what an airplane or n airline pilot is?

He flew F-102's in the TX ANG, so I'd say, yeah, he knows what an airplane looks like.

 

[Fit59]

Not to mention a negotiated benefit is now in the can. Medical benefits for retirees was something worth millions of $$$ a year (at UPS, you receive medical bene's until Medicare). Now we essentially gave that away. Those millions could have given the F/O's more of a raise, or a larger B fund contribution.