Pinnacle pilots vote 99.39% in favor of a strike.

[Smarta$$]

Pinnacle pilots vote 99.39% in favor of a strike. With 87% participation.

Pretty much sums it up.

Hard to believe that a few people still think about coming here. I guess they would be the .61%.

 

[John Pennekamp]

We at ASA did that 3 years ago, and it didn't do anything except give ALPA some material for their press releases.

 

[BCpilot81]

sounds familiar, except our 92% does not sound so cool anymore

 

[Smarta$$]

We at ASA did that 3 years ago, and it didn't do anything except give ALPA some material for their press releases.

Thanks for the words of support.

I find it very significant, and am very proud of our pilots.

Our BOD and senior management now know where we stand. It will only get more expensive for them.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Thanks for the words of support.

I find it very significant, and am very proud of our pilots.

Our BOD and senior management now know where we stand. It will only get more expensive for them.

I hear the familiar tune of the beating of chests... *THUMP* *THUMP* *THUMP*.

Good luck. Y'all can either bring those pay rates up, or cave and be the next Mesa. We'll give you as much support as your group gave us.

 

[Smarta$$]

I hear the familiar tune of the beating of chests... *THUMP* *THUMP* *THUMP*.

Good luck. Y'all can either bring those pay rates up, or cave and be the next Mesa. We'll give you as much support as your group gave us.

Thank you for your words of support.

 

[Mesabi Miner]

Where does Pinnacle stand in terms of negotiations? Have they discussed any of the money items in the contract yet? Are they in federal mediation yet? If so, any talk of being released to the cooling off period? Just trying to see what chapter you're up to in the Red Tail Regional vs. Management syllabus. Contract disputes suck.

MM

 

[XJohXJ]

Good luck to you PCL guys. It will be a win for every pilot in our country if you guys can raise up your contract. You DO have the support of other pilot groups.

The pendulum is still over on Management's side. It's been on the pilot's side before, and things have been much better for labor in the past. I think it's starting to swing towards the pilots side again (albeit slowly) . You can either fight, despite the odds being against you, or you can just roll over and fall asleep. You guys have taken another step towards fight, and I wish you success.

 

[Tram]

We at ASA did that 3 years ago, and it didn't do anything except give ALPA some material for their press releases.

Yeh, we'll see what happens..

As sad as it is, a strike vote in this day and age is just another phase of contract negotiations...

 

[PositionandHold]

Yeah means absolutely nothing. Don't get excited for no reason.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Yeh, we'll see what happens..

As sad as it is, a strike vote in this day and age is just another phase of contract negotiations...

Yeah means absolutely nothing. Don't get excited for no reason.

My point, exactly. Keep fighting, don't start beating your chests yet. Be VERY SAFE 100% OF THE TIME. Get it? You'll have a contract in no time.

 

[OCP]

My point, exactly. Keep fighting, don't start beating your chests yet. Be VERY SAFE 100% OF THE TIME. Get it? You'll have a contract in no time.

Exactly! It took 5 years but ASA pilots finally got together and flew "by the book". Do exactly what your POH or FOM says. Taxi at a safe walking speed. If ANYTHING is broken, write it up. (do a search, there is a LOT on a CRJ that breaks a lot). It took just under 1 month of doing this and magically we had a contract TAd. With that % of a strike vote you should all make this happen. What was participation %?

 

[Papps]

Yeah means absolutely nothing. Don't get excited for no reason.

Its a moral booster to the guys flying the line, and with the Bush regime leaving office we airline pilot peons may soon have strike leverage back.

A 99+ strike vote isn't going to change things drastically but it does tell management that even if our pilots are backed into morgages and debt they are fed up enough to become fatalistic about there jobs and strike regardless of their personal finances because this company has sucked the life out of 99+% their employees.

 

[Tram]

What was participation %?

87.XXX%

 

[fowingman]

so where does the pncl pilot group stand now? where in the process is everything? mediation board? close the 30 days of cooling off?

 

[PCL_128]

Excellent job, guys. Stand up to those sons of bitches and get what you deserve.

 

[Tram]

so where does the pncl pilot group stand now? where in the process is everything? mediation board? close the 30 days of cooling off?

I'd say 1.5 years from anything exciting happening..

 

[e=mc2]

A stike vote is like french kissing your grandmother.

BTW did they do a seat check when Pinnacle slide the RJ in the dirt today?

 

[Tram]

BTW did they do a seat check when Pinnacle slide the RJ in the dirt today?

Obviously they didn't do a panty check in your mothers drawers, or they would have found the stain you crawled out of...

 

[405]

BTW did they do a seat check when Pinnacle slide the RJ in the dirt today?

Yes, they did. When all was said and done, there were two seats for the crew and a sliding jumpseat for an XCM up front. There's also 50 seats for passengers in the back and a flight attendant jumpseat as well.

 

[Flyprdu]

To those who think that a strike vote is an act of futility, I ask this:

What else would you do? Throw your hands in the air and resign that you have been foresaken by the airline gods?

Management already has an easy of enough time of taking advantage of their respective employee groups. Why make it any easier for them? A strong showing such as this, albeit inactionable for the time being, will give the management team pause.

 

[Tram]

To those who think that a strike vote is an act of futility...

It's not an act of futility...

However, in this day and age, it is just another step in contract negotiation process..

It is a positive thing, but I don't expect anything to happen any time soon..

To put it simple - we are gonna have to disrupt a lil' service just like the ASA fellas did...

 

[MINIME]

Excellent job, guys. Stand up to those sons of bitches and get what you deserve.

With all due respect PCL, you guys need to push the Eastern youth to do the same. Souds like they must be your problem now, not the Easter guys per say.

And by the way, I don't like hats either!!!! I think LUV is proof that they don't make a difference when it comes to compensation. This is a friendly disagreement by the way. I support your fight.

Congratulations to the Pinnacle pilots for the vote. Now just hope that you guys can get released so that you can engage in self help if need be. Regardless, the vote shows that your ranks do have a spine.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

My support and best wishes to the PCL pilot group

From a former PCL pilot

 

[PositionandHold]

Its a moral booster to the guys flying the line, and with the Bush regime leaving office we airline pilot peons may soon have strike leverage back.

A significant majority of the old farts in the left seat (and probably a good number in the right) voted for the Bush regime and against our pocketbooks in the first place.

 

[CFIT]

We at ASA did that 3 years ago, and it didn't do anything except give ALPA some material for their press releases.

Well that and it gave Republic the contract that was supposed to go to ASA, remember the lift for Continental?

 

[sweptback]

Well that and it gave Republic the contract that was supposed to go to ASA, remember the lift for Continental?

Oh, you mean the contract that SkyWest, Inc. did not bid on because it didn't make financial sense?

You guys have pulled this card before and got called on it. Each time you bring it up you have less and less credibility.

 

[Rook]

Excellent job, guys. Stand up to those sons of bitches and get what you deserve.

Word.

 

[BCpilot81]

Well that and it gave Republic the contract that was supposed to go to ASA, remember the lift for Continental?

Dont forget Frontier either

 

[BCpilot81]

Oh, you mean the contract that SkyWest, Inc. did not bid on because it didn't make financial sense?

You guys have pulled this card before and got called on it. Each time you bring it up you have less and less credibility.

I was a NH when this Continental thing was going down, but anyways, our then Prez BL came in and blatently said , "We are exploring options to fly for Continental's available contract." You do not have to, nor will you believe me. But according from the proverbial horse's mouth, the bid was there.