Why is SKYBUS?

[ICAO]

Things dont look to great for Skybus? Destinations are being cut....CANT MAKE MONEY FLYING TO WEST COAST?...WOW. Cant even use the aircraft you have correctly, 5-6 aircraft..What to do with 65 aircraft...JOKE. Worst of all losing 3-5 MILLION a month.....lets see how long you will be around:laugh: ......anyone?

Next joke is the stock....cant wait.

 

[starchkr]

HUH?!?!?!

 

[Fins Up]

It takes a long time for any new business to make money. I wouldn't pass judgement on that just yet. However, one does wonder how many sodas and Skybus T-shirts you have to sell to make up for the cheap tix.

 

[Headfake14]

I can't imagine the seat pitch on there...150 on a 319. Yikes.

 

[bgaviator]

I can't imagine the seat pitch on there...150 on a 319. Yikes.

It's actually 156 seats....it is extremely tight. I've been on the 156 seater....not comfortable at all. I'm only 5'9" and my knees are just about hitting the seat in front of me. I really wish they would just use 150 seats and give everyone just a tiny bit more leg room.

 

[Headfake14]

no kidding...what a pisser. I guess I've gotten spoiled on our ships. The 190 has more pitch than the Delta coach seat I was in the other day. And the bus has even more than that...like 36 or something.

 

[JJET44]

Cutting West coast cities, fuel at record highs,
loosing 3-5m a month? This was the formula that put Indy out of business (among other things)!!
Anybody know how much start-up capital Skybus had.

 

[vixin]

160's I believe.

 

[clickclickboom]

Cutting West coast cities, fuel at record highs,
loosing 3-5m a month? This was the formula that put Indy out of business (among other things)!!
Anybody know how much start-up capital Skybus had.

The Term " START UP CAPITAL " is a true smoke and mirrors show..

Cold hard green cash is usually only a fraction of the amount you read about in the news.. Some of that start up figure is released only based on performance

Also the town on columbus gave a total package worth 55 million.. That includes the valuation of retail gate space, leases, advertising dollars, ground crews, equipment leases, jetways etc etc etc.. They didnt just write a check for 55 mil.. Skybus will have to perform to realize every dollar.

Jetblue was advertised as having $120 million of start up in 2000. I have heard cash was only about 40 million but hey jet a was 78 cents per gallon.

I personally dont think skybus will make it..

It is a decent idea at the wrong time in the history of this country.. And lets face it the 10 seats for $10 must have been invented by a complete fool.. They could have put in 10 first class seats and advertised 10 first class seats for only $100 and they would fill them every day every flight.

 

[ICAO]

160-170 They Said

I dont believe a single thing they told anyone at Skybus...The entire managment is full of losers and liars...and they will look you straight in the face and lie to you.They couldn't answer a single question anyone asked them at any time...their days are numbered.

 

[BRA]

156 seats? So does that extra 6 seats require one extra flight attendant? You would think that would not be worth it.

 

[labbats]

6 seats at $10 each more than pays for a $9/hr flight attendant with no per diem.

Pathetic.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Sorry guys, but reducing long-distance routes due to rising fuel prices isn't a sign of bad business nor weakness; it's quite the contrary.
If they are not making their profit margin due to increased fuel burn, then they simply reallocate those aircraft to shorter routes that will yield higher profit. It's actually good business and will continue to strengthen their company, rather than operate at a loss like many of the larger airlines do.

 

[Fins Up]

I think it depends on how the investors see it. 1. It is good business sense to cut the routes that aren't working; or 2. We expect to lose money during a startup but still decide to cut routes. How much were these routes part of there original business plan?

Sorry guys, but reducing long-distance routes due to rising fuel prices isn't a sign of bad business nor weakness; it's quite the contrary.
If they are not making their profit margin due to increased fuel burn, then they simply reallocate those aircraft to shorter routes that will yield higher profit. It's actually good business and will continue to strengthen their company, rather than operate at a loss like many of the larger airlines do.

 

[clickclickboom]

They have reduced their capacity on transcons because they are going to offer 20 seats at $5 each and then raise the sodas to $3 each to offset the short term loss.

The fa's are being dropped to the concessionary rate of $ 6.50 per hr due to sales quota shortfalls.


They are going to rebrand the company and issue the pilots new uniforms.. The pilots are told to buy a 3 ounce bottle of bleach on the plane for $1.99 and soak their uniforms in the hotel sink.

There it all makes sense so please stop bashing skybus the pilots are all going to be millionaires with the ipo coming soon

 

[bgaviator]

Cutting West coast cities, fuel at record highs,
loosing 3-5m a month? This was the formula that put Indy out of business (among other things)!!
Anybody know how much start-up capital Skybus had.

From what I've heard from former employees, Indy Air was also running their innaugural flights with only like 2-3 people on board the planes.

 

[bgaviator]

156 seats? So does that extra 6 seats require one extra flight attendant? You would think that would not be worth it.

yes, that aircraft has to have 4 FA's....but even if it only had 150 seats it would require 4 FA's.

 

[JJET44]

From what I've heard from former employees, Indy Air was also running their innaugural flights with only like 2-3 people on board the planes.

No, I did a few flights on the first day. It was more like 15-20 on the RJ. I think my first flight was a deadhead to BNA to do the return trip to IAD. I had to laugh when a passenger stated how she liked our brand-new 5-year-old RJ.

 

[bgaviator]

yeah, I wish people would stop comparing SX to Inday...different concept, different operating costs.

 

[Blueline]

yes, that aircraft has to have 4 FA's....but even if it only had 150 seats it would require 4 FA's.

Not true. JB removed 6 seats & 1 FA.