Travel Management-Elkhart IN. ????

[bell47]

Anyone know about these guys? Good, bad or otherwise? Their website is pretty limited.

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

From what I have heard, you are better off trying to go to a fractional. TMC does only Sentient work, and they don't pay any better than a Regional airline. At least at the regional you get uniforms, free parking and travel benefits to go with your regional airline salary.

 

[DA-20]

I only live about an hour from EKM. I sent many letters and even whent there once but I guess I didnt know the secret hand shake. Seemed like a small operation. Good luck.

 

[acapilot2003]

actually the pay at TMC is a lot better than a regional, and they're going to have around 20 airplanes by the end of this year.

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

Pay at TMC is $60,000 for a Beechjet Captain, $40,000 for an FO, better than a regional, but not a whole lot. Certainly not the $65,000 and $45,000 industry standards. Furthermore;

- $40/day per diem, while the industry is paying $50-$60.

- You buy your own uniforms. Usually free uniforms or an allowance are a given, unless for example, the pay is exceptional.

- $280/month for health, vision, dental for two...I pay $160/month for better coverage.

- You will pay for your own parking at the airport. This is an operational expense that the company should be expected to cover.

-8 on 6 off schedule, with no promises not to make you work on your 6 off.

-No vacation! They will shift schedules around to give you two 6 day rotations off in a row, but then screw you down the road to cover someone elses "vacation".

-If you are asked to work extra days, or you don't get home until a day into your "off" week, they don't pay you for the first two extra days you work each quarter. You get to work up to 8 uncompensated days per year!

- You will sign a 12 month training contract.

I am confused why a company that wants to grow is going to give second tier compensation. Pay second tier and you will get second tier people, the good ones won't hesitate to move on. Meanwhile, your customers will suffer because poorly paid people are not motivated to give exceptional service. They will just show up and "punch their tickets".

Suddenly a regional job doesn't sound so bad! Besides, you can move to the right seat of a major in 18 months! My friend who gave me this information is not planning on making a career of this place.

My advice is; don't waste your time on these people.

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

For anyone interested, I was informed that Travel Management finallly published a full pay scale, and apparently not many of the captains working there are happy about it. My friend would not have accepted the job there if he knew this up front. It seems they all expected better pay than FLOPs, but that isn't what they got. I don't have all the details but apparently, you will make more at Avantair. Like, year 3 Avantair pay is better than year 5 pay at TMC. By year nine you are making $95k at Avantair which you don't make until year 15 at TMC. Avantair tops out at $105 k at year twelve, while TMC tops out at $95 K at year 15! Plus Avantair gets $48/day per diem, vs only $40 at TMC. Don't they realize that this kind of pay is why FLOPs has Teamsters today? I hear that many pilots at TMC would welcome a union when they get big enough to attract one. Good luck guys!

 

[learflyer]

Headwinds, did your friend fly for the fracs?

 

[Skippy]

the place is shaky at best---its a joke

pay for parking to come to work? where do i sign-- dont even waste your time-- make them raise their pay and benes.

Skippy said so

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

Learflyer, no he was 135 but hoping to get in on the ground floor of something good. He (and everyone else) was thinking they would have to be competetive with NetJets, CShares, etc. when they sorted the salaries out. He is quite disappointed. He left a $65,000/yr job for TMC. The way he put it, he would never have taken the job if he had know that it would be 2013 before he was back to his 2006 pay level.

Welcome to Indiana, remember to set your clocks back a decade.

 

[jumppilot03]

Anyone interested in TMC should look at XOJET. With their newly planned expansion, the place could be a gem. And before you ask, No I don't work at either place.

 

[learflyer]

the place is shaky at best---its a joke

pay for parking to come to work? where do i sign-- dont even waste your time-- make them raise their pay and benes.

Skippy said so

Flops, CS, and if i'm not mistaken, Flexjet doesn't pay for parking either.

 

[skeeter666]

Does anyone have the latest pay raises? How does the 8/6 schedule work? Do you travel on wed and thursdays and have the rest off? If you are hired as a gear yanker, how long till upgrade? Thanks-

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

The word on the pay schedule is 3% per year, with 5% in your 4th and I think 7th year. In other words, you will never make any more than you make the year you are hired after inflation...pathetic if you ask me. doing the math:

Captain FO
yr 1 $60,000 $40,000
yr 2 $61,800 $41,200
yr 3 $63,654 $42,436
yr 4 $66,837 $44,558
yr 5 $68,842 $45,895
yr 6 $70,907 $47,272
yr 7 $74,452 $49,636
yr 8 $76,686 $51,125
yr 9 $78,987 $52,659
yr 10 $81,357 $54,239
yr 11 $83,798 $54,239
yr 12 $86,312 $54,239
yr 13 $88,901 $54,239
yr 14 $91,568 $54,239
yr 15 $94,315 $54,239

Apparently most of management are ex FLOPs people, so this must sound pretty good to them. You will make more money long term at; Avantair, FlexJet, CitationShares, XOJet, and NetJets FO's make more than TMC Captains (must be embarrassing). All of these places are currently hiring.

When I asked about upgrades, it seems no one has yet. Apparently they are hiring a lot of street captains from crummy 135 jobs that make TMC look good.

Weds is the travel day. A crew doesn't get to go home until the next crew shows up, so you leave home real early on Weds and get home real late the next Weds.

Oh, I was informed that FO raises stop at year 10 so I adjusted the chart to reflect that.

 

[emspilot 01]

Just Another 135 Charter Company

The chief pilot has just quit and more pilots are going to be leaving soon.I heard it started out being a good place to work until the recent pay schedule along with other company changes already posted on this website.Travel Management Company will be out of business in a matter of a year or until Sentient Jet gets tired of all their pilot turnover.This is my observation after seeing other companys go down the same path and being part of the Sentient Jet family.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

- You will pay for your own parking at the airport. This is an operational expense that the company should be expected to cover.

I'm guessing you mean if you are commuting out of a gateway. There is nowhere at EKM that you have to pay for parking. Agreed though, if half of your per diem each day gets sucked up by parking back at ORD, then that really sucks. Also, I understand that brokered trips don't yield tips too often either. I guess they actually tell the customer not to do it .

 

[ManChild]

I'm guessing you mean if you are commuting out of a gateway. There is nowhere at EKM that you have to pay for parking. Agreed though, if half of your per diem each day gets sucked up by parking back at ORD, then that really sucks. Also, I understand that brokered trips don't yield tips too often either. I guess they actually tell the customer not to do it .

We don't have Domiciles, so you can live anywhere. Yes you do have to pay for parking, but you don't have to fly out of ORD. As far as "brokered trips" we stay really busy. 8/6 is the schedule. Wednesdays are always your travel day. If you volunteer to fly on your day off, they offer $300 a day.

 

[lionflyer]

R they still hiring? What's it take to get a call? I'm former 121 so I'm sure that doesn't help.

 

[BEfly]

I hear they are. Mostly Beechjets. Most of their business is Sentient Jet. 7 on/7 off is my buddy's schedule. Can live anywhere. Industry standard pay/benefits. Rapid growth. hope that helps

 

[learflyer]

I hear they are. Mostly Beechjets. Most of their business is Sentient Jet. 7 on/7 off is my buddy's schedule. Can live anywhere. Industry standard pay/benefits. Rapid growth. hope that helps

Oh yes, the buddy network. How can some have 8/6, and some 7/7?

 

[Corp Pilot]

Why did the chief pilot quit?
I thought that everyone was happy with the 8 and 6 schedule and all of the growth?