New Eagle Minimums!!!

[Smarta$$]

I find it always best to study for interviews.

Priceless!

 

[737Longhorn]

I find it always best to study for interviews.

YGBFKM...He had 1600/200 and is a multi CFII. He didn't have to study for no stinkin' interview.

 

[labbats]

Time needed to fly my cancelled check - 1200hrs

Time needed to fly my family a thousand miles - 400hrs

Time needed to wake up the FAA - forever



So now captains are flying more hours, more legs and basically single pilot. Brilliant.

 

[siucavflight]

Back in 2004 when I went in for my interview with 1600tt, 200 multi CFII, they wouldn't hire me because I hadn't studied the gouge and filled my brain with what the 121 alternate minimums were at the time..... Thankfully for that, I was given the opportunity to go find my dignity flying for Uncle Sam.....
American Eagle can ki$$ my a$$

I still cant believe this post.
Like I said always find that it is best to study what they want you to know!

 

[I Hate Freight]

Back in 2004 when I went in for my interview with 1600tt, 200 multi CFII, they wouldn't hire me because I hadn't studied the gouge and filled my brain with what the 121 alternate minimums were at the time.

TRANSLATION: "I didn't prepare for the interview and could not get through one of the easiest hiring processes in the business. I sat there and watched everyone else from my interview group, some with much less experience than I, pass through all four phases with no problem. But me, a tough guy with 1600 whopping hours... well, I just couldn't cut it and they sent me home with my tail between my legs.

Now, instead of realizing that it was MY fault for not preparing for the interview and a simple fifty-question written test, I'll just blame the process and ridicule the comany. After all, nothing is ever my fault."

 

[CFIIer]

Let's not get hasty fellas.:smash: The one thing that always amuses me is how people on this board always get all worked up. The last sentence in my last comment was a little unnecessary. Looking back, I would have paid the money and gotten the gouge off the net. I guess I'm a little bitter that people who have no experience in life or in an airplane are given these opportunities, while I spent 3 years flight instructing, and then flying those cancelled checks. I will say, everything does happen for a reason.

Fact is, didn't really want the job. Just wanted the experience of interviewing for some regional airline. What did upset me a little was the overweight individual who sat across the desk and brow beat me. I wonder if he still does that, or if he basicly grovels at the younger's feet?

I'll bet you though, that they don't ask these newbies anything past their last name and maybe favorite hobbie. It's just a sign of the times...

Have a great day everyone
:beer:

 

[siucavflight]

CFII, you would be wrong still not a cake walk interview. In my interview class last year two out of the 8 of us made it through.

 

[chignutsak]

Back in 2004 when I went in for my interview with 1600tt, 200 multi CFII, they wouldn't hire me because I hadn't studied the gouge and filled my brain with what the 121 alternate minimums were at the time..... Thankfully for that, I was given the opportunity to go find my dignity flying for Uncle Sam.....
American Eagle can ki$$ my a$$

Wow, what a shame. Somehow, though, Eagle managed to continue without your majesty's presence.

 

[pilotyip]

reapply as the hiring market changes they will redefine competitve minimums

 

[AAsRedHeadedbro]

While I agree that it would be nice to get pilots with higher experience, the simple fact of the matter is that those pilots are getting harder and harder to find as the pool dries up. I happen to be an IOE line check airman and my observation is that these new hires are challenge to bring up to speed, however just about all of them eventually make it through the process. The folks that wash out almost always do it earlier in the process - usually during the sim training.

Once these folks get on-line, they usually quickly become just as competent, in a broad sense, as the more experienced FO's. And like all of the FO's they learn the intricacies as they as they gain experience.

Btw, a lot of you may not know this, but this has happened in the past. Back in the late 60's airlines like Pan Am were hiring pilots with single engine commercial licenses only. How do I know this? I had a discussion about 19 years ago with a senior Pan Am 747 captain who told me that he was hired with exactly that sort of time. The airline had to give him his multi rating while in initial training.

This stuff was fairly common for a while back then and most of those retired as highly experienced wide body international captains.

 

[labbats]

Btw, a lot of you may not know this, but this has happened in the past. Back in the late 60's airlines like Pan Am were hiring pilots with single engine commercial licenses only. How do I know this? I had a discussion about 19 years ago with a senior Pan Am 747 captain who told me that he was hired with exactly that sort of time. The airline had to give him his multi rating while in initial training.

This stuff was fairly common for a while back then and most of those retired as highly experienced wide body international captains.

It's not apples to apples. Back then there was a selection process and a large pool of applicants, much like the armed forces is now. They may have low time, but they have a very stringent weeding out process prior to getting airborne.

In today's environment, anyone with $80,000 to scrape together can get hired and put several dozen lives in their hands.

 

[Popeye0537]

TRANSLATION: "I didn't prepare for the interview and could not get through one of the easiest hiring processes in the business. I sat there and watched everyone else from my interview group, some with much less experience than I, pass through all four phases with no problem. But me, a tough guy with 1600 whopping hours... well, I just couldn't cut it and they sent me home with my tail between my legs.

Now, instead of realizing that it was MY fault for not preparing for the interview and a simple fifty-question written test, I'll just blame the process and ridicule the comany. After all, nothing is ever my fault."

Wow, thats harsh. I interviewed in 03 with more time than you have now and didn't make it. My "paper work" wasn't complete enough for them! Sorry I didn't add up all my C152 night/dual/hood time together, I hadn't received the email they said they sent me. I really wanted to work for Eagle at the time, but it was a blessing... I would still be sitting in the right seat.

 

[wacoflyr]

I just finished initial training at Eagle. Two out of the nine in my interview class got hired. Fifteen out of the eighteen newhires in my class made it through. No question, the sim was the toughest part. I've got 4,000 plus, mostly multi, with 1,200 of that flying checks, and more than 800 IMC in New England. Trust me, it was tough. We may be green, we may not know the ropes, but we can certainly fly an airplane.

Respectfully, Wacoflyr

 

[spacecadet1]

I just finished initial training at Eagle. Two out of the nine in my interview class got hired. Fifteen out of the eighteen newhires in my class made it through. No question, the sim was the toughest part. I've got 4,000 plus, mostly multi, with 1,200 of that flying checks, and more than 800 IMC in New England. Trust me, it was tough. We may be green, we may not know the ropes, but we can certainly fly an airplane.

Respectfully, Wacoflyr

With your time, I can't believe you would go to eagle, or couldn't get hired elsewhere. Do you have any blemishes on your record? Faa violations, no college degree, multiple DUI's, etc?

 

[hindsight2020]

This thread is amazing. What credence does f$ckin gouge hold in the overall process of evaluating the value of a candidate as it pertains to employability. The guy above who may have not bothered to study the gouge (I swear regionals are the collegiate aviation environment of the 21st century) but managed to end up flying barneys and not planted himself on the ground. Shame on him for not making it through the "comprehensive" hiring process at Eagle and for not reading the almighty gouge..(sarcasm)

To each their own, but you guys have to stop drinking the kool-aid. Rational people make decisions based on incentives. siucavflight touting eternally about comprehensive hiring process, how only 2 of 8 in his class "made it through", in a regional where you will be paid FO pay for close to a decade before having any semblance of career progression (even a lateral move could have been thwarted by getting hired at Y regional to begin with) is the epitomy of the emperor has no clothes. I don't care if you get to live on base, you'll quit Eagle before making CA and you'll do so because you can't afford to get paid 35K a decade after you started nor forego said time to get an ounce of TPIC. I can understand if the guy choked on a RAH, skywest, XJT interview, but at eternal right seat Eagle, come on, he was better off financially CFIing, period dot.