Latest on AA recalls...

[MarineGrunt]

We've heard a lot about UAL and NWA, but not much about AA. How goes it?

 

[CKJET]

It goes...still waiting 5 years +

 

[Draginass]

Furloughed about 2800.
Started slowly recalling Jan 07.
Recalling 40 per month now.
Now about 750 down the list including Sep recalls.
Acceptance rate about 33% (about the same as UAL).
Fair number taking Military Leaves of Absence.

 

[CKJET]

I am about 2100 down the list.

As several Us Air guys have wrote in the majors thread, I don't know if I would go back,

I always wanted to work for AA, but being a pilot is not like it used to be. Will just have to evaluate the situation when/if the letter ever comes.

 

[Draginass]

The kicker is that the labor contract is up next May. What happens after that is anyones guess, but it's pretty evident that the mood is really really ugly.

 

[Isla Mujeres]

AA is increasing the recalls in October to 50. There will be 2 classes of approx 25/class. Class dates are tentatively set for Oct 3rd and 17th.

 

[CKJET]

AA is increasing the recalls in October to 50. There will be 2 classes of approx 25/class. Class dates are tentatively set for Oct 3rd and 17th.

Any word on how many are turning down?
50 this month is a good sign!
Anyone out there close to a re-call? What are your thoughts what are you doing now? If they called me today I would pass but who knows down the road.

 

[MarineGrunt]

bump.

 

[Draginass]

Number of calls going out for Nov class is down a lot due to military deferrals coming back after the end of the fiscal year. Continuing to bring more ground school instructors back, which is a good sign.

 

[satpak77]

any idea what year the last furloughee will get called back?

 

[Huggyu2]

What are the hire dates of the pilots being recalled now?

 

[Draginass]

The Nov recall class looks probably like Jan-Feb 01 hires.
About #1050 (out of 2834 total on furlough) will probably be the the junior guy recalled in Nov.

Acceptance rate is about 34% (not including the 180 guys so far that have accepted recall then went on military LOA). As the company gets deeper into the recall list, it's likely that the acceptance rates will decline significantly because a lot of the sharp guys have found better, more stable jobs with good companies, rather than flying for an airline.

My pure guess is that AA won't be hiring until well into '09, and only then if the economy doesn't tank, which I think it will.

 

[aa73]

The Nov recall class looks probably like Jan-Feb 01 hires.
About #1050 (out of 2834 total on furlough) will probably be the the junior guy recalled in Nov.

Acceptance rate is about 34% (not including the 180 guys so far that have accepted recall then went on military LOA). As the company gets deeper into the recall list, it's likely that the acceptance rates will decline significantly because a lot of the sharp guys have found better, more stable jobs with good companies, rather than flying for an airline.

My pure guess is that AA won't be hiring until well into '09, and only then if the economy doesn't tank, which I think it will.

Agree on most of this.... except that, starting in January, we should be starting into recalling the huge block of TWA pilots (about 1300 or so) and from what I understand many of those will come back. You see, they come back to 17 year pay(1989 hire), all the way down to 8 year pay (2000 hire.)

I do agree that we should start hiring by 2009 if nothing changes.

 

[catIIIc]

We do not acrue seniority while on furlough so those of us hired in 2000-2001 and furloughed in 2001 would be coming back at 1st and 2nd year pay.

 

[75M]

We do not acrue seniority while on furlough so those of us hired in 2000-2001 and furloughed in 2001 would be coming back at 1st and 2nd year pay.

Keep an eye on this as the new contract negotiations unfold. The possibility exists that longevity (for pay purposes) may be extended to furloughees.