Skywest and ATL Reductions?

[701EV]

Late see Skywest run 700 flights a day out of ATL. Their on time will look like ASA's on time.

701EV

 

[Morning Wood]

Yeah, but does Skywest have 40 minute scheduled turns in ATL all day long? With 20 minute turns at the outstations?

Only 6 airplanes in and out of ATL during the day, two of which end up in the SLC system. Pretty hard to tell how good we do compared to anyone else with that few flights in ATL. Take the whole system with hubs in ORD, SFO, LAX, SLC, and DEN with 1800-plus flights in a day for 3 code shares to get a better idea of what goes on. ATL is a drop in the bucket.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

Why would SkyWest hand the aircraft with 1st-class seating over to the worst on-time regional from the best on-time regional?

I know it has already been said but I think you're gonna see the ASA numbers dramatically improve.

 

[FixNFly]

Only 6 airplanes in and out of ATL during the day, two of which end up in the SLC system. Pretty hard to tell how good we do compared to anyone else with that few flights in ATL. Take the whole system with hubs in ORD, SFO, LAX, SLC, and DEN with 1800-plus flights in a day for 3 code shares to get a better idea of what goes on. ATL is a drop in the bucket.

Which is exactly why ASA's numbers suck. ATL is basically 50% of our departures & that's why our numbers are so bad. If you look at operations out of CVG vs ATL we are around 90% on-time in CVG vs 65% (or lower) out of ATL. Granted that's because CVG's operation actually makes sense and they draw from a different pool of workers.

But the main thing is our numbers will not improve until Delta gives us a schedule that is realistic, not one that requires the precision of a Swiss watch.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Let's not forget who really saves ASA's butt in on time performace. The outstations that can actually turn an aircraft in 20 minutes help to get us back on schedule more than anything it seems.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Let's not forget who really saves ASA's butt in on time performace. The outstations that can actually turn an aircraft in 20 minutes help to get us back on schedule more than anything it seems.

Except for BWI

 

[Skywest Pylot]

It doesn't matter what any of us thinks. Skywest management will do whatever they want (within the limits of ASA's contract). Probably not good for us to argue over something we can't control. Concrats to the ASA pilots on their new contract and good luck!

 

[wms]

Yeah, because SkyWest never flies into ORD, EWR, ATL, GVG, IAD, BWI, DFW, IAH, HOU or DEN/SLC in the winter.

Your argument is flawed, SkyWest has better performance in ATL than any other DCI carrier.

I wonder if you've been to ATL to see the difference? SKYW and the other outside DCI carriers park one airplane at one gate with one ground crew and lots of turn-time. ASA parks three planes at one gate with maybe one full crew and 40 minute scheduled turn times.

PS: Delta handles 100% of ASA's ATL ground ops and almost 100% of our delays are due in some part to ground ops (fuel, catering, cleaning, boarding, etc). In fact ASA pilots showed DAL just how much they cover DAL's butt in ATL by staying on top ground ops during turns. All they had to do was stop micro-managing the ground support of their airplanes and wait for people to do their jobs and the operation imploded. Performance is not good in ATL, but without engaged pilots, it's even worse.
DAL sees the difference in the operations that have jetways, that's why C concourse is going all jetway next year.

 

[Tarzan]

One thing I believe that will help us tremendously is that Delta has begun to fire rampers without warning. You get caught screwing around.... See ya!

I got a bug wash twice and never asked for one last week! Never had to call for fuel, water, lav dumps, or catering once. We'll see if it continues though.

 

[yahooair]

Just got confirmation from Bombardier, no 900s we're ever suposed to go to ASA..looks like some bitter pilot started this rumour or it could have been people at the top trying to pressure ASA pilots. But looks like there were never plans for ASA to get those 900s.

 

[jetracer5]

Just got confirmation from Bombardier, no 900s we're ever suposed to go to ASA..looks like some bitter pilot started this rumour or it could have been people at the top trying to pressure ASA pilots. But looks like there were never plans for ASA to get those 900s.

How would Bombardier know where the planes were headed after Delta took delivery?

 

[79%N1]

Just got confirmation from Bombardier, no 900s we're ever suposed to go to ASA..looks like some bitter pilot started this rumour or it could have been people at the top trying to pressure ASA pilots. But looks like there were never plans for ASA to get those 900s.

100% B.S. False

Nice try, though. You, sir are misinformed.

 

[ohplease!]

Just got confirmation from Bombardier, no 900s we're ever suposed to go to ASA..looks like some bitter pilot started this rumour or it could have been people at the top trying to pressure ASA pilots. But looks like there were never plans for ASA to get those 900s.

I seem to remember Jerry Atkin himself sitting in the C lounge saying those planes were coming to ASA unless we would not agree to fly them for less like Skywest pilots would.

 

[Morning Wood]

Which is exactly why ASA's numbers suck. ATL is basically 50% of our departures & that's why our numbers are so bad. If you look at operations out of CVG vs ATL we are around 90% on-time in CVG vs 65% (or lower) out of ATL. Granted that's because CVG's operation actually makes sense and they draw from a different pool of workers.

But the main thing is our numbers will not improve until Delta gives us a schedule that is realistic, not one that requires the precision of a Swiss watch.

The schedules in SLC are no better. On Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday, the schedule is reduced a bunch. Planes come in and sit and have to be moved off the gate to the hangar or deice pads. Then either a crew or mx has to move them back when they go out later. Someone in ATL thought this was a good idea on paper, but it's a pain in the ass. I don't think Delta is doing either one of us any favors.

 

[XPOO]

I know it has already been said but I think you're gonna see the ASA numbers dramatically improve.

So you mean now that you have a TA you are all going to act like "professionals" again? No havoc? No more write every little thing up?

Ramp ops in ATL will just change overnight?

821SK will magically reappear sans SkyWest Anniversary paint job and in ASA livery?

SkyWest will leave ATL, and ASA will move back into SLC?

Call me skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it.