SWA (phx or las)

[Skybus]

Not sure who is the bigger idiots on this board. GL or those that engage this fool?? How many times do we have to read about 7 legs and LBB and more importantly how many times will you idiots follow this ass???

 

[Benjamin Dover]

I've held off as long as I could. I bolted from DAL to SWA last year. I have yet to fly a 7 leg day nor have I been to LBB - I feel cheated! . In fact, I've yet to fly a 6 leg day. 5 max and that's rare. I flew more legs per day MD-88 out of ATL than I fly at SWA.

Oh, and what the General fails to mention is what are the duty days for domestic DAL vs. SWA? I will tell you - MUCH less at SWA. Say all you want about the more block we fly at SWA, but I'll take a 7 hour block and 9 1/2 duty day and go to the hotel (many good places - same hotels as DAL even! Crazy huh!) I flew the MD-88 - can't tell you how many scheduled 11+ duty days turned into 14+ with no ovetime pay kicker. Max scheduled duty day is usaully 10 or less at SWA.

I also don't miss those "productivity sits" in ATL. I guess it was a chance to shine my shoes though ...

So, here we go with the General with all those k*ck as$ Int'l trips. Great, but what about DAL's domestic operation? Give it all to the rj's? Int'l is doing great .. for now. But what about the rest?

I'm sure GL will come back with something witty - is he at 10K posts yet? I've got many buds at DAL and hope all goes well, but sure would be nice if you lost the GL somehow. Out,

BD

 

[328dude]

I've held off as long as I could. I bolted from DAL to SWA last year. I have yet to fly a 7 leg day nor have I been to LBB - I feel cheated! . In fact, I've yet to fly a 6 leg day. 5 max and that's rare. I flew more legs per day MD-88 out of ATL than I fly at SWA.

Oh, and what the General fails to mention is what are the duty days for domestic DAL vs. SWA? I will tell you - MUCH less at SWA. Say all you want about the more block we fly at SWA, but I'll take a 7 hour block and 9 1/2 duty day and go to the hotel (many good places - same hotels as DAL even! Crazy huh!) I flew the MD-88 - can't tell you how many scheduled 11+ duty days turned into 14+ with no ovetime pay kicker. Max scheduled duty day is usaully 10 or less at SWA.

I also don't miss those "productivity sits" in ATL. I guess it was a chance to shine my shoes though ...

So, here we go with the General with all those k*ck as$ Int'l trips. Great, but what about DAL's domestic operation? Give it all to the rj's? Int'l is doing great .. for now. But what about the rest?

I'm sure GL will come back with something witty - is he at 10K posts yet? I've got many buds at DAL and hope all goes well, but sure would be nice if you lost the GL somehow. Out,

BD

Im curious Ben, what where some of the low-life MD-88 overnight citys that you stayed at? As Gential has pointed out LBB, MAF and AMA, I'm sure you had some fun places to compare it with.

Once again, a former DL pilot that speaks of the truth unlike our friend the Genital.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Im curious Ben, what where some of the low-life MD-88 overnight citys that you stayed at? As Gential has pointed out LBB, MAF and AMA, I'm sure you had some fun places to compare it with.

Once again, a former DL pilot that speaks of the truth unlike our friend the Genital.

I believe Jackson, MS was my favorite. No offense to local residents, but that was the only hotel - at least in my civilain airline career - where I felt I should have gotten a shot of something (besides booze) before I bedded down for the night.

328, it would be a waste of time to try to tell GL how it is out here in the domestic world, so I'm sorry if I don't waste my efforts.

One thought to leave with though - I have learned since I came to SWA though that there is a general (no pun intended) perception of DAL pilots that they all have a stick up their as$. My take is that it is not true. Same dudes, various backrounds, most good guys and a few "others". GL was the exception at DAL just as I believe SWA/FO is the exception at SWA. I've flown with mostly good guys and a few as$holes at both companies.

Southwest is a great place and guys like GL are complete idiots, but I would caution against buying too hard into the "we're the best" mantra from the old skool crowd. SWA has some learning to do as well.

My two cents,

BD

 

[328dude]

I understand completly. Any company can improve and we are no exception. We are completly diffrent than DL and do things diffrently. We are not a legacy and never will be. Both airlines offer a great product, but we just do it with out the "stick up the a$$".

 

[SWA/FO]

just as I believe SWA/FO is the exception at SWA

ouch, com'on baby!!!!

 

[Heavy Set]

None, I wish the Mods would just ban him once and for all.

What's the old saying, "if you don't have anything nice to say...................."

All he said was that he didn't want to be a Southwest pilot, and gave his reasons. All of you guys then melted down.

 

[Heavy Set]

I've held off as long as I could. I bolted from DAL to SWA last year. I have yet to fly a 7 leg day nor have I been to LBB - I feel cheated! . In fact, I've yet to fly a 6 leg day. 5 max and that's rare. I flew more legs per day MD-88 out of ATL than I fly at SWA.

Oh, and what the General fails to mention is what are the duty days for domestic DAL vs. SWA? I will tell you - MUCH less at SWA. Say all you want about the more block we fly at SWA, but I'll take a 7 hour block and 9 1/2 duty day and go to the hotel (many good places - same hotels as DAL even! Crazy huh!) I flew the MD-88 - can't tell you how many scheduled 11+ duty days turned into 14+ with no ovetime pay kicker. Max scheduled duty day is usaully 10 or less at SWA.

I also don't miss those "productivity sits" in ATL. I guess it was a chance to shine my shoes though ...

So, here we go with the General with all those k*ck as$ Int'l trips. Great, but what about DAL's domestic operation? Give it all to the rj's? Int'l is doing great .. for now. But what about the rest?

I'm sure GL will come back with something witty - is he at 10K posts yet? I've got many buds at DAL and hope all goes well, but sure would be nice if you lost the GL somehow. Out,

BD

I think you have been away too long from Delta. Most of what you say is wrong, according to my friends there. Can you really fly a 7 leg day at Southwest? How about 6? My friends at SWA have flown six leggers, especially in TX and CA. Are you sure those long productivity sits are still there in ATL? (NOT according to my friends) And you flew the MD88 at Delta? Guess what? Most of them now do old Song routes, which have two legs a day for about 7 hours credit. Sounds better than your 4-5 legs across the country. You sound bitter, and General Lee is right to slam the bunch of you. I am sure he is glad you are gone. You only flew the MD88? My friends on the ER love it. Too bad you won't ever try that, you could have had a change in attitude.

 

[328dude]

I think you have been away too long from Delta. Most of what you say is wrong, according to my friends there. Can you really fly a 7 leg day at Southwest? How about 6? My friends at SWA have flown six leggers, especially in TX and CA. Are you sure those long productivity sits are still there in ATL? (NOT according to my friends) And you flew the MD88 at Delta? Guess what? Most of them now do old Song routes, which have two legs a day for about 7 hours credit. Sounds better than your 4-5 legs across the country. You sound bitter, and General Lee is right to slam the bunch of you. I am sure he is glad you are gone. You only flew the MD88? My friends on the ER love it. Too bad you won't ever try that, you could have had a change in attitude.

Hey look everyone, the Genital's back in his other form. Welcome back General. Man, I can't keep all your screen names straight.

 

[Heavy Set]

Hey look everyone, the Genital's back in his other form. Welcome back General. Man, I can't keep all your screen names straight.

Excuse me? You think I am the General? Just because someone else actually sees what you Southwest guys are doing and actually defends the General, must be the General? You sure are slick! He really is getting to you guys. You show weakness, and many of us love how he does it to you. Why do you guys keep this silly fight going? I bet he is just laughing the whole way. You are clearly losing it, along with that SWA/FO who just sounds dumb.(wait for it, SWA/FO will try to put me down for flying a Lear 45 next..even though he flew a DA20)

 

[General Lee]

Excuse me? You think I am the General? Just because someone else actually sees what you Southwest guys are doing and actually defends the General, must be the General? You sure are slick! He really is getting to you guys. You show weakness, and many of us love how he does it to you. Why do you guys keep this silly fight going? I bet he is just laughing the whole way. You are clearly losing it, along with that SWA/FO who just sounds dumb.(wait for it, SWA/FO will try to put me down for flying a Lear 45 next..even though he flew a DA20)

Thanks for your support Heavy. I am glad some people on here share my views or just allow me to give an opinion without a bashing. This whole LBB deal started with me saying I wouldn't want to be a Southwest pilot for a variety of reasons, which was met with dismay by some SWA guys. They can't believe I wouldn't be interested in their style of flying. Regardless, I still think their airline is great, with friendly stews and great pay rates, but that isn't the whole picture for some. Some people need variety in routes and planes to keep from getting bored too. Flying one type of plane the rest of my life just sounds like complacency waiting to happen, and for those saying 12 hour flights can breed complacency too--I have one answer: a relief pilot is waiting, along with your first class meal. And, if I decide I don't want to do that anymore, domestic flying is still there too. These SWA guys just don't want to believe some of us don't want multiple leg days on one type of plane. Again, thanks for your support Heavy Set.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Im curious Ben, what where some of the low-life MD-88 overnight citys that you stayed at? As Gential has pointed out LBB, MAF and AMA, I'm sure you had some fun places to compare it with.

Once again, a former DL pilot that speaks of the truth unlike our friend the Genital.

Good ole Ben flew the MD88 when the routes were a bit different. When we had 757s flying Song, the MD88s were doing a lot more short haul stuff. Now, with more 767s flying INTL instead of ATL-MCO, the 757s from Song have taken more transcon routes, and the MD88s have taken more North--South stuff on the East Coast. A lot of their trips are 2 leg days with fairly long layovers either North or South. The MD90s in SLC still do short haul stuff in SLC, with occasional longer routes to YYZ or CLE. Also, the MD88 now does Caribbean flying, which did not occur when Bennie was here. There are turns to St.Croix, San Juan, Grand Cayman, Guadalajara, and even Cancun layovers. Boy Ben, you really don't know what has happened here. And, if you had stayed and gotten tired of the MD88, you could have had many choices to keep you interested. But hey, instead you are a corndog now and you will be paid well to fly an orange 737 around the US. Good for you.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ivauir]

Why do you guys keep this silly fight going?

You are the one loggin in with a second account to keep it going ... you are mental, seek help.

 

[ivauir]

These SWA guys just don't want to believe some of us don't want multiple leg days on one type of plane. Again, thanks for your support Heavy Set.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I guess you are having trouble dealing with the fact that pilots are picking SWA over your beloved Delta? I'm sorry reality is so tough on you these days, your counceler should be able to help with that.

Enjoying talking to yourself freak?

 

[Scrapdog]

Thanks for your support Heavy. I am glad some people on here share my views or just allow me to give an opinion without a bashing. This whole LBB deal started with me saying I wouldn't want to be a Southwest pilot for a variety of reasons, which was met with dismay by some SWA guys. They can't believe I wouldn't be interested in their style of flying. Regardless, I still think their airline is great, with friendly stews and great pay rates, but that isn't the whole picture for some. Some people need variety in routes and planes to keep from getting bored too. Flying one type of plane the rest of my life just sounds like complacency waiting to happen, and for those saying 12 hour flights can breed complacency too--I have one answer: a relief pilot is waiting, along with your first class meal. And, if I decide I don't want to do that anymore, domestic flying is still there too. These SWA guys just don't want to believe some of us don't want multiple leg days on one type of plane. Again, thanks for your support Heavy Set.

Bye Bye--General Lee

You guys going steady? General, what kind of cheese do you want with your whine?

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Boy Ben, you really don't know what has happened here.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Right General. Didn't Longstreet tell you not to go up that hill??...

Hope that CEO that the creditors picked out works out o.k. I heard Whitehurst was the man. Too bad - he'll make good dough somewhere else I guess.

Glad to hear that the rj's have picked up the mad dog lines.

Gotta get some rest for my 2 legs/day 3-day that pays as much as a DAL 4-day. For me anyway. I guess for a SWA captain it would be like 777 rates.

I don't even go through Texas. Am I dreaming this or am I really doing 3 DAL-LBB turns??????????????

Gotta run. I'd throw out another barb about how much used to come out of my pay for healthcare at DL compared to today but I'm too lazy to find a good number. Big difference is all I'll say. GL, this is not one worth the fight becuase it's the same provider (UHC) and it's not even close what SWA picks up of the cost compared to DAL. I hope you at least get free meds when you go to Dakar, etc. though. We get free stuff for LBB

 

[vixin]

Hey Haevy go beg a FlexJet guy for another job. I forgot you are flying your lear 45 around...wow. Stay off a thread you know nothing about little boy.