NEWSFLASH: Log just 30 HRS airplane time and anyone can fly an airliner!

[inthegoo]

Check out the current ALPA magazine article, just 30 hrs and 6 landings in an actual airplane + sim time and you can be an airline FO,

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...View.aspx?itemid=9076&ModuleId=6602&Tabid=256

 

[viper548]

30 hours and they can fly an airliner? Not on my plane. No unrestriced commercial multi engine rating no touchie the controls, even the gear. I hope ALPA stands up against this

 

[JoeMerchant]

Did you read the end of the article? ALPA admits this could work if done correctly..... ALPA is a joke! This shouldn't see the light of day.... the current requirements are too low.....

ALPA thinks this could be done if it is done properly.... what do you ALPA cheerleaders think about that?

 

[PCL_128]

Did you read the end of the article? ALPA admits this could work if done correctly..... ALPA is a joke! This shouldn't see the light of day.... the current requirements are too low.....

ALPA thinks this could be done if it is done properly.... what do you ALPA cheerleaders think about that?

Joe, you moron, why don't you actually call Captain Rice and ask him what ALPA's position on this is? Paul has been working on this issue for well over a year, and I can assure you that ALPA isn't happy with the program. Before you get all worked up, actually make a phone call and get the real info.

 

[dogismycopilot]

If user fees become a reality in the US, so will the MPL. User fees lead to more costly flight training. Higher cost flight training leads to more professional pilots with less experience. Why practice crosswind landings when they cost $10 a pop? The idea is to get bodies into seats as quickly (and cheaply) as possible and use the more experienced CA as a teacher and mentor.

Bottom Line - User fees will hurt not just GA but also the airlines. Write your congressperson!​

 

[IronCityBlue]

Mins for airline FO in transport category aircraft should be an Airline Transport Pilot certificate. This 30 hour thing is worthy of an SOS.

If this somehow does come to fruition, watch your backs wonder punks, you WILL get written up, early and often.

 

[ratherbeflyen]

All I can say to that is OMG! The training department has a hard eneugh time getting guys with 600 hours of flight time qualified in the jet. Now they want to teach everything from visuals to radio calls in a simulator?

"The holder of an MPL will not be able to exercise the

privileges of a private pilot unless he or she separately completes the licensing requirements for the private pilot certificate."

Even the creator of this crap doesn't think the applicant will be qualified eneugh to fly a 152. How the hell are they supposed to fly 121?

I gave my 1000 hours of dual as a CFI if I have to give instruction for the rest of my life... I'll just quit now. Not to mention if you think your pay is low now, wait till an airline can replace you with any guy off the street. I wonder what the general public thinks of this idea? I get eneugh crap for being to young to fly a plane after 8 years of exp. I can't imagine the public going for this idea.

I got a better idea than this one. Lets just take some high school graduate who bought a ticket on the flight and give him half his money back if he will work the leg. They can work it just like they do when they try to buy back overbooked flights.​

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You can emotionally respond to this or you can get educated to understand... the choice is yours... ALPA has been monitoring this and has made information on it available to all its members... If you are just now getting informed.... great.... but you're about a year behind.....

 

[flyf15]

Will holders of this license ever be able to upgrade? Or will they be career FOs?

 

[inthegoo]

If they are gonna do this, then its a shortage of ALL seats, not just right seat, scary!

-Goo

 

[flyf15]

Of course they will upgrade, and probably as soon as possible, scary!

-Goo

Well, I'm not sure I see how this can be. They don't have any type of "real" pilot certificate. ie: They can't act as PIC of anything, much less a 121 transport aircraft. To do this, you obviously need an ATP, and there are requirements in there they won't be able to meet (ie: PIC time).

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I use those loosely, welcome aboard Atlanta Air. Your copilot today has never flown a real airplane, so she'll be getting some practice with me watching. Hope you enjoy the $29.00 ride. You'll get your money's worth I promise.

As a matter of fact, the mechanic who MEL'd the thrust reverser is a rookie and probably did it wrong. Our dispatcher just graduated from a school in sunny Florida, and has planned for us to takeoff and land on closed runways. Plus, our tug driver can't speak English, but no matter, our headsets don't work anyway. Finally, catering never showed up so there is no ice. I'm on my sixth day having been extended, I just want to get home, but scheduling has been outsourced to Mexico. They didn't have work there so this will take some getting used to.

Good news is Delta has a new CEO, his bonus is 200 million dollars, so the airplane isn't exactly clean today. Volunteer night was canceled due to the big announcement.

Thanks for flying U KNOW WHOOO.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Did I forget the co told me she is a gymnast? I think I'll be gettin nekid tontie weeeeeee!!!!

 

[EUT]

We can bitch all we want, including ALPA, and it won't ammount to a fart in the wind. The only thing that matters in the indstry is the Benjamins. And the only hope we have at stopping this nightmare is for the insurance underwriters, who will have to shell out 2 Mil/coffin when one of thses guys screws up, to say "HELL NO!" Let's hope they have the sence to inject some sanity in this scenario.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

The way I read it is it's an ICAO program. That doesn't apply unless the FAA decides to adopt it. The FAA would have to go through the whole NPRM thing and create a whole new set of FAR's for this program. That would take a few years.
ICAO often creates programs like this which are utilized by smaller countries that don't have their own seperate aviation governing body.

And as far as the user fee thing goes; it might be a good thing for us. If it's significantly more expensive to learn to fly, then there will be fewer new commercial pilots out there to take the low paying jobs and we will be able to demand higher salaries.