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screwed_again

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I heard a 9E captain denied the jumpseat to a Mesaba guy trying to get home to DSM this weekend? Is this true? His excuse (as told by the FO who had to deliver the bad news to the pilot standing at the gate) was they did not have enough O2. Is that true. Not enough O2. Is this a common problem with the CRJ 200? What a tool...
 
Is this a common problem with the CRJ 200?
If maintenance doesn't properly service the O2 when it gets used, then yes. I don't work for 9E but I had an airplane last week with the jumpseat on MEL because of a OXY LO PRESS caution message. Thankfully we didn't have to deny anybody for it.

The captain wasn't being a "tool", he was simply complying with FARs...
 
If it was the afternoon MEM-DSM on Sunday then it was the captain...that guy is notorious for denying jumpseaters and using that excuse
 
If it was the afternoon MEM-DSM on Sunday then it was the captain...that guy is notorious for denying jumpseaters and using that excuse

Well if that's the case then not only do I stand corrected, but that captain needs to be taken to the woodshed by his pilot group.

Bet Captain Jackass doesn't commute...the only people that look out for crews these days are our colleagues, and this guy needs to be reminded of that. Forcefully.
 
If maintenance doesn't properly service the O2 when it gets used, then yes. I don't work for 9E but I had an airplane last week with the jumpseat on MEL because of a OXY LO PRESS caution message. Thankfully we didn't have to deny anybody for it.

The captain wasn't being a "tool", he was simply complying with FARs...

Instead of denying a jumpseater, why not call maintenance to come out and service the 02 so he/she could've been accommodated? Duh
 
Instead of denying a jumpseater, why not call maintenance to come out and service the 02 so he/she could've been accommodated? Duh

That certainly is an option...but in our case Mx Control had already opted to simply MEL it because that was the easiest, cheapest thing for them to do. The disappointing thing about it is the airplane was just a day out of a service check in a mx base...:angryfire

Like I said, I'm glad we didn't have to deny anybody.
 
That certainly is an option...but in our case Mx Control had already opted to simply MEL it because that was the easiest, cheapest thing for them to do. The disappointing thing about it is the airplane was just a day out of a service check in a mx base...:angryfire

Like I said, I'm glad we didn't have to deny anybody.

Just empty the 02 to whatever level is required so that it must be serviced anyway, regardless of a jumpseater being on board or not. Then the j/s will more than likely be accommodated.

mx control sux
 
That certainly is an option...but in our case Mx Control had already opted to simply MEL it because that was the easiest, cheapest thing for them to do.

Just because a discrepancy is deferred with an MEL doesn't mean the CA has to accept it. Nothing trumps the CA's right to refuse to accept an aircraft with discrepancies, even with valid deferrals.

BTW, I know you're not necessarily defending this person, just pointing out the facts, but I get a little weary of people who act like they have to accept an aircraft because, after all, the discrepancy in question is deferred.
 
I hope it was not the guy who denied the jumpseat to a NWA pilot on the last flight on christmas eve. Total tool. Couple of mainline captains take a look at my badge and take out a small paper and make sure im not on it
 

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