Truth About Colgan

[Prop2Jet]

SO WHAT MAKES THIS AIRLINE SUCK WORSE THAN THE OTHERS?

List away!

 

[BOHICAgain]

SO WHAT MAKES THIS AIRLINE SUCK WORSE THAN THE OTHERS?

List away!

I thought ever airline sucked at the regional level.
Colgan is no different. I bet is 1st year pay was like 45 across the board at every airline things would not suck as much

 

[Fred Rogers]

I thought ever airline sucked at the regional level.
Colgan is no different. I bet is 1st year pay was like 45 across the board at every airline things would not suck as much

The pay is the least of it.

I'm sure that will be going up very soon, as it's about time to bring out the big guns from the Ford/Harrison union busting playbook. I expect to see a pay/benifet increase very soon.

DON'T BE FOOLED COLGAN PILOTS!!
VOTE YES FOR ALPA!

 

[suupah]

The thing is, we should have use the open line of communication we all have to negotiate better pay in the first place.

Oh i almost forgot to mention the open line of communication has been MEL'd eversince forever. But it is there.

 

[rhino3040]

I love 16 hour duty days....they frickin' ROCK!

 

[Grey Ghost]

the fact that mikey says that if you would look at your work rules, you would be impressed! that says it all about the state of mind management is in....

 

[rhino3040]

Its not that bad.....home every night is on the top of my list. So as long as that stands I'm a happy camper.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Yeah, I guess Life there would be great if you lived in Clarksburg W.V.!!!!!!

 

[Prop2Jet]

"
Its not that bad.....home every night is on the top of my list. So as long as that stands I'm a happy camper.
______"


Freakin news guys suck.....You will learn young skywalker when the Colgan's eat their young....

 

[Prop2Jet]

Did you see how Colgan used putting the 2% into their 401K? WTF? What a bunch of morons. Why would I want to put my money in the 401K that is not even matched? That is poor financial advice. At the least I would have opened up a Roth IRA if I had the money to do so!

 

[av8tor76]

Did you see how Colgan used putting the 2% into their 401K? WTF? What a bunch of morons. Why would I want to put my money in the 401K that is not even matched? That is poor financial advice. At the least I would have opened up a Roth IRA if I had the money to do so!

actually, you are the moron who's getting poor financial advice...obviously, a company match would be beneficial, BUT you should be taking advantage of the 401 for the tax advantages if nothing else..

 

[Metro752]

Cue the violin...............!

 

[suupah]

Actually you are both morons. you should be taking 2% and playing it at the black jack table in vegas. I find you get at least a 20% return immediately and NO tax penalty. PLUS you get free boos.

 

[Prop2Jet]

Av8:

No sir you are mistaken. Why would you want to pay tax on your capital gains instead of up front? With a Roth IRA you do not pay capital gains tax. Why would you invest in a 401K without a match and a limited set of mutual funds is this smart? NO. When you move from one company to another, are you going to take your 401K with you? Yes, but then you again are limited on the type of options offered to you by your new company. On average experts say that if you fully fund a 401K and fully fund a Roth IRA you will net, over a 20 year investment span, 1 million dollars in capital gains TAX FREE... SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW YOU BYOTCH.

o by the way I believe you can deduct your Roth IRA contributions too from your tax statement.

 

[Prop2Jet]

Have fun with your investment strategy Av8, it sounds really really complicated....

 

[av8tor76]

chill prop..i'm talking about this option in addition to already funding your roth...

 

[Prop2Jet]

I love you Av8!!!!

Good idea!

You know I never get mad at people on here. My typing words does not convey the true meaning of my emotions, which is always light hearted!

I am going to invest in Columbian drug cartels, are they list on the S&P?

 

[Fred Rogers]

I love you Av8!!!!

Good idea!

You know I never get mad at people on here. My typing words does not convey the true meaning of my emotions, which is always light hearted!

I am going to invest in Columbian drug cartels, are they list on the S&P?

You guys are smart. I need to pay down my credit card, then once I do that, and buy some new rims for my ride, I'll open up a savings account. We'll all be reaach beeaach

 

[OnTheRocks]

Its not that bad.....home every night is on the top of my list. So as long as that stands I'm a happy camper.

dude....i hope youre joking

 

[Grey Ghost]

Why are colgan guys talking about retirement and 401k's and investing? That 21 bucks an hour must be going along ways these days. Anyone thinking about retiring at colgan now? Mikey offering pensions to stop the union now?

 

[Grey Ghost]

Code Share Partners
Current Scenario
"We currently have an excellent relationship with all three of our code share partners, US Airways,
Continental and United. Our Company has been the turbo-prop go-to guy for each of our code share partners". Right from uncle mikey.....Per the new letter, Ya because colgan undercuts everybody, www.colgancares.com What freaking joke.....

 

[Grey Ghost]

Where were all these letters, before the union talk, mikey sure has a alot to say, now......

 

[Godfather]

wanna make some fast $$$$

I love you Av8!!!!

Good idea!

You know I never get mad at people on here. My typing words does not convey the true meaning of my emotions, which is always light hearted!

I am going to invest in Columbian drug cartels, are they list on the S&P?

Better yet...put down a few g's on the ziti and I'll give ya back some serious dough say about 60%. I got this great deal with a few NBA refs on throwin a few NBA games and shaving some points. Who says crime doesn't pay...Life in the mob...what a country. Should have done this years ago. I got some friends in Columbia that I can hook you up with. They are looking for a few good pilots too. My fee is of course, 15 points. bada bing

 

[suupah]

I have talked to 3 pilots in this past week who changed their minds and decided to vote YES to ALPA largely due to Mike's letters.

 

[vectorvictor]

actually, you are the moron who's getting poor financial advice...obviously, a company match would be beneficial, BUT you should be taking advantage of the 401 for the tax advantages if nothing else..

Actually the advice is good. Pay the tax now and earn money tax free for retirement in your roth first if there is no company match. Max out the roth before you put money in the 401k.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Where were all these letters, before the union talk, mikey sure has a alot to say, now......

The talk is revving up as the election nears. Hopefully no one will be fooled by a pay raise or something like that to try to bust the union-drive. I could see it happening VERY soon. Maybe they actually will start matching the 401k.

www.alpa.org/colgan
VOTE YES PEOPLE!!!


Ghost - your avitar rocks

 

[Poahi]

Well, at least he admitted that if Colgan were ALPA, pilots would have better working conditions. So good, he claims, that you guys wouldn't be competitive with Mesa. If you truly believe that, don't vote for ALPA.

 

[BirdCatcher]

Where were all these letters, before the union talk, mikey sure has a alot to say, now......

The Colgan Pilots will see through this stuff, I have no doubt. Remember everyone Mike says "We have always had an open line of communicaton and hope to keep it going in the future." Well guys and gals let's think about that. How many times have they closed a base without telling any employees beforehand? How many times has numerous emails or voicemail led nowhere? They want us to vote NO so they can keep that going, his letter states it. How dare he even suggest we have had good communication, far from it.

The union busting is in full swing. Anyone notice for several weeks the company issued nothing about the union? The same time the CPG website wasn't updated either. Then when Colgan management starts up so does the CPG both using similar arguements almost like it was planned. Hmmmm. Speaking of which shame on certain CPG individuals on their lack of professionalism with their updates. (Some have been very professional but their updates seem to be deleted quickly). Here's what we as pilots should look for from the professional union busters:

Dirty tricks: Things like creating false documents and blaming union personal for such things.

Propaganda: Memos, letters, some of which are informational, sometimes misleading remember our open communication at Colgan

legal obstruction: Already been attempted and denied. I'm sure more attempts in the works

Put management on the same level: Make management appear to be with the group, show up to events, make small changes and say they were for us to make things better. (they always seem to care during union drives)

Expect these, when they happen it shows the professional union busting is in full effect. For more info, ask Commutair guys about how this works. Expecially how after the drive is over; all the caring seems to go away

 

[Fred Rogers]

For more info, ask Commutair guys about how this works. Expecially how after the drive is over; all the caring seems to go away

That is exactly right! The Commutair union vote failed because too many people "didn't want to get involved" or were just plain apathetic.

After the union drive was over, things got worse.

Colgan NEEDS ALPA!

www.alpa.org/colgan

 

[suupah]

Well, at least he admitted that if Colgan were ALPA, pilots would have better working conditions. So good, he claims, that you guys wouldn't be competitive with Mesa. If you truly believe that, don't vote for ALPA.

where did you read this?