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13 July Flight Operations Hotline:

Hello, it's Hank Krakowski with a Hotline message for Friday, July 13 th . Today I wanted to fill you in on the status of our pilot hiring program. As Sean mentioned last month, United will begin hiring pilots later this year - the first time since 2001.
Next week, at 1201 a.m. Central Time on Monday, July 16 th , the application process for new pilots will go “live” on united.com. Because the new pilots will be our next generation of flight officers, we're looking for the very best.
Historically, as you know, United employees have been tremendously helpful in identifying great pilot candidates, so we are encouraging incumbent United pilots to refer those who would be good pilots and prideful representatives of the company.
The referral process is simple. You just fill out a referral form on SkyNet from one of two locations:
  • First, you can go to “Department,” then “Flight Operations,” and then to the “Pilot Referral Form.”
  • Or, alternatively, you can go to “Career Gateway,” then “Job Forms You Need,” then “Pilot Referral Form.”
You will then be asked a few important and relevant questions – such as how long you've known the candidate, how often you may have flown with the candidate, and how you would rate his or her skills, as well as why you believe he or she would make a good pilot for us.
Please be aware that it is important that you match your referral with the job candidate. The candidate must already have submitted an application before you submit your referral. It is also critical that you reference the same email address that the candidate used to complete his or her online application.
Based on the candidate's application and flight qualifications, we will choose the top candidates to move forward in the selection process. As we said earlier, we expect to hire up to 100 pilots by the end of the year.
Also, over 175 current line pilots applied to become interview captains. From an outstanding group of 36 candidates, representing a wide cross-section of line captains, we will be selecting 12 to become full-time interview captains. I want to thank every pilot who volunteered to participate in the selection process.
We're very excited about this and look forward to having you send us the best and brightest candidates.
That's it for today. We thank you and fly safe.






Good Luck to anyone interested.:beer:
 
I love how these airlines feel that they are entitled to "the best of the best" when they treat their pilots like something stuck to the bottom of their shoes and pay them accordingly. F-united, and the rest of them. They've got nothing to offer.
 
Why would anyone go to United now? In a couple years, maybe, but definitely not now.
Can you say furlough FOD?!?!
 
Just another slap in the face to the furloughees who spent 5+ years on the street and went back. They will find themselves just a handful of numbers ahead of a shinney new mint FO who probably started in this industry the year we were all hired there. And for the ones who were still "half-wingers" you will be on the same first year pay of $31 and hour as these new guys. No furlough credit like ERP 1 and 2 promised will be a source on contention for years to come.

For all of those who are going to give it a try, good luck. I hope United provides for you and your family better than it did mine.
 
Why would anyone go to United now? In a couple years, maybe, but definitely not now.
Can you say furlough FOD?!?!
Actually, that depends on what happens with UAL.

If they don't merge with anyone and the survive their financial issues, getting hired on NOW would be better than a couple of years down the road.

Guys hired a few years from now are the furlough fodder. Guys hired in the beginning of a hiring phase, historically, have been OK, 9/11 notwithstanding.

That said, you wouldn't find me anywhere NEAR a UAL Scantron unless I was working for HoJets or one of those new bottom-feeder Airbus outfits and had no better options...

I'm sure they'll get the usual 10,000+ applicants in the first week, only 1,000 of which are actually qualified for the position.
 
Any application fee this time around?
 
When does the current contract expire?

As sad as it be, its a given industry wide that first year pay is gonna suck no matter who your flying for, it be United , or Fed Ex, but is there any talk of fixxing 2nd year and up pay scales in the upcoming contract.....
 
I might put in an app, don't think I would go but could use the practice. Lets hope it does get better and some of the guys and girls that have been there for a while get what they deserve in the next round of negotioations.
 
Anyone who applies to a legacy carrier that pays 31$ and hour should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of them.

What an embarassment.
 
Kind of reminds me of that scene from "Major League" when the GM calls Lou to see if he wants to manage the team.

General Manager: How would you like to manage the Indians this year?
Lou Brown: Gee, I don't know.......
General Manager: What do you mean? This is your chance to manage in the big leagues.
Lou Brown: Let me get back to you. I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
 
Actually, that depends on what happens with UAL.

If they don't merge with anyone and the survive their financial issues, getting hired on NOW would be better than a couple of years down the road.

Guys hired a few years from now are the furlough fodder. Guys hired in the beginning of a hiring phase, historically, have been OK, 9/11 notwithstanding.

That said, you wouldn't find me anywhere NEAR a UAL Scantron unless I was working for HoJets or one of those new bottom-feeder Airbus outfits and had no better options...

I'm sure they'll get the usual 10,000+ applicants in the first week, only 1,000 of which are actually qualified for the position.

Remember, you're only one 9/11 away or a few a/c blown up away from being furlough fodder again. Have a plan B.
 
Remember, you're only one 9/11 away or a few a/c blown up away from being furlough fodder again. Have a plan B.
You can say that about any airline job...

Or bus drivers if they bomb a couple buses.

Or subway drivers if they bomb a couple subway tunnels.

Or...

You get the picture. A 9/11 is a poor excuse for making a career decision. The natural cycle of the industry, however, has continued for almost 3 decades now, and getting on early in an airline's hiring curve is, historically, the safest place to be.

But what do I know,,, I've only been furloughed twice and on airline #4. Never been caught on the bad-side of a hiring curve... noooo, not me. ;)
 
As sad as it be, its a given industry wide that first year pay is gonna suck no matter who your flying for, it be United , or Fed Ex, but is there any talk of fixxing 2nd year and up pay scales in the upcoming contract.....

I would like FedEx first year pay to be higher as well, but I wouldn't put it in the same sentence with United's first year pay. FedEx now pays $54/hour, and unless you stay on the panel that will at least double in 12 months.
 
Kind of reminds me of that scene from "Major League" when the GM calls Lou to see if he wants to manage the team.

General Manager: How would you like to manage the Indians this year?
Lou Brown: Gee, I don't know.......
General Manager: What do you mean? This is your chance to manage in the big leagues.
Lou Brown: Let me get back to you. I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

Perfect example :)
 
Anyone who applies to a legacy carrier that pays 31$ and hour should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of them.

What an embarassment.


I wouldn't be ashamed of applicants although I am extremely ashamed of our contract pay rates agreed upon during bk...esspecially new hire pay rates. I'm guessing those rates weren't fought for that hard because no one imagined UAL recalling everyone that wanted to come back and then hiring on top of that before the amendable date.
Not long ago we did have an industry leading contract. That contract was gained by the many folks on our seniority list who were willing to fight until the company came back with that industry leading contract. We were beat up in bk. Not saying we couldn't have fought harder than we did because we could of but apathy ruled at the time. Our contract blows but we're going to do what it takes to get it improved sooner than later.
 
My dad retired off the 747 at United in July of 2001 (good timing, eh?). I'm currently an RJ captain itching to move on. I always wanted to work for United. My dad being there is what started me down this career path in the first place (would have gone military like dad, but my timing was all wrong).

I guess the point to my self-pity is that I wanted to go to United so bad I would have sold one of my children to get there 6 years ago. But right now, the idea of leaving my current position for United just isn't giving me a warm fuzzy. And it's not just the pay.

It just feels kind of weird having wanted this for such a long time, and now it's within my grasp. But I think I'd be a fool to apply right now.
 
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My dad retired off the 747 at United in July of 2001 (good timing, eh?). I'm currently an RJ captain itching to move on. I always wanted to work for United. My dad being there is what started me down this career path in the first place (would have gone military like dad, but my timing was all wrong).

I guess the point to my self-pity is that I wanted to go to United so bad I would have sold one of my children to get there 6 years ago. But right now, the idea of leaving my current position for United just isn't giving me a warm fuzzy. And it's not just the pay.

It just feels kind of weird having wanted this for such a long time, and now it's within my grasp. But I think I'd be a fool to apply right now.

You and I are in the same boat. You're not alone.
 
My dad retired off the 747 at United in July of 2001 (good timing, eh?). I'm currently an RJ captain itching to move on. I always wanted to work for United. My dad being there is what started me down this career path in the first place (would have gone military like dad, but my timing was all wrong).

I guess the point to my self-pity is that I wanted to go to United so bad I would have sold one of my children to get there 6 years ago. But right now, the idea of leaving my current position for United just isn't giving me a warm fuzzy. And it's not just the pay.

It just feels kind of weird having wanted this for such a long time, and now it's within my grasp. But I think I'd be a fool to apply right now.
This isn't your Dad's United.
 

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