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[Gutenberg]

What's the deal with FLOPs? I never see anything about them on the boards. Do they have a MDW base? What are their mins? Would anybody recommend flying for them? What is the schedule like? How do you apply because their website is very application un-friendly.

Thanks!

 

[dash_trash]

FLOPs

Haven't hired in well over a year ... the fleet has decreased by roughly 40% as has the number of pilots in the last couple of years ... no base at MDW ... schedule is an 8/7, which means we work quite a bit more for a lot less than our brothers at NJ.

It used to be a decent place but has been going steadily downhill since the arrival of our latest CEO ... hotels (bad), food (also bad), no vactions or forced to take vacation days when the company decides, health insurance through the roof, mgmt through intimidation, etc., etc., etc.

Wouldn't recommend applying ... maybe after we get a contract

 

[dime line]

Haven't hired in well over a year ... the fleet has decreased by roughly 40% as has the number of pilots in the last couple of years ... no base at MDW ... schedule is an 8/7, which means we work quite a bit more for a lot less than our brothers at NJ.

It used to be a decent place but has been going steadily downhill since the arrival of our latest CEO ... hotels (bad), food (also bad), no vactions or forced to take vacation days when the company decides, health insurance through the roof, mgmt through intimidation, etc., etc., etc.

Wouldn't recommend applying ... maybe after we get a contract

Lets not forget to give credit to his "side kick" as well, there joined at the hip

 

[jetwash]

I have been hearing that they plan to start hiring in August/ September.

Get ready to sit in the right seat of a BeechJet for about 7 or 8 years before you will have enough senority to upgrade.

Plus be ready to move to the Tier 1 city where they want you to live in. ( you can't choose anymore) I think ORD is a Tier 1.

I have also heard they will be looking for low time guys 500+ hours since they would be happy to work for the low wages just to get to fly a jet.

Good Luck

 

[dash_trash]

Haven't hired in well over a year ... the fleet has decreased by roughly 40% as has the number of pilots in the last couple of years ... no base at MDW ... schedule is an 8/7, which means we work quite a bit more for a lot less than our brothers at NJ.

It used to be a decent place but has been going steadily downhill since the arrival of our latest CEO ... hotels (bad), food (also bad), no vactions or forced to take vacation days when the company decides, health insurance through the roof, mgmt through intimidation, etc., etc., etc.

Wouldn't recommend applying ... maybe after we get a contract

Forgot ... that's only for those already here more than 2 or 3 years. The bottom of the list gets the totally awsome "Flex Schedule" ... good luck scheduling anything personal more than a month out.

 

[dime line]

I have been hearing that they plan to start hiring in August/ September.

Get ready to sit in the right seat of a BeechJet for about 7 or 8 years before you will have enough senority to upgrade.

Plus be ready to move to the Tier 1 city where they want you to live in. ( you can't choose anymore) I think ORD is a Tier 1.

I have also heard they will be looking for low time guys 500+ hours since they would be happy to work for the low wages just to get to fly a jet.

Good Luck

I can't wait to ASAP the first 500tt pilot that need some instructing. But I think that they will need the min 1200tt for 135 min (not that thats better)

 

[greygoose]

\schedule is an 8/7, which means we work quite a bit more for a lot less than our brothers at NJ.

Try a 7 on 3 off 8 on schedule for newhires.

 

[gunfyter]

Does the FLEX pay more?

 

[dash_trash]

Does the FLEX pay more?

You're kidding, right???? :laugh: Flops doesn't "pay more" for anything. Same poor pay ... only less time at home and don't know your schedule.

 

[TheBaron]

I can't wait to ASAP the first 500tt pilot that need some instructing. But I think that they will need the min 1200tt for 135 min (not that thats better)

Uhh... I think that is to serve as pilot in command. Yes...pretty darn sure of it.

 

[hammer2]

When can you strike?

 

[skyismyoffice]

Not soon enough...

 

[IronManNDFW]

Amen to that

 

[dash_trash]

When can you strike?

Need solidarity among the pilots ... still don't have that.

Need to motivate mgmt to seek mediation.

Then ... just maybe ...

 

[hammer2]

Isn't 15 on 3 off motivation enough?

 

[dime line]

Isn't 15 on 3 off motivation enough?

To a normal brain, you would think. Over here, I'm amazed how much some people can take a screwing.

Flew with a guy who lives in the middle of no-where, he said, " I don't need anymore money, how much does one really need" hes a copilot as well.....

 

[hammer2]

Sounds like PilotYip is the leader of the union at Flops.

 

[hydrarkt]

To a normal brain, you would think. Over here, I'm amazed how much some people can take a screwing.

Flew with a guy who lives in the middle of no-where, he said, " I don't need anymore money, how much does one really need" hes a copilot as well.....

We had some of those idiots a NJA too. Good thing they were in the minority. But you have to call those guys out because they hurt the group as a whole. You probably won't be able to convine them how much they're worth because they're already idiots if they don't know. Good luck.

 

[400pilot]

Isn't 15 on 3 off motivation enough?

It's 7 on 3 off 8 on 12 off.......

 

[B19 Flyer]

We had some of those idiots a NJA too. Good thing they were in the minority. But you have to call those guys out because they hurt the group as a whole. You probably won't be able to convine them how much they're worth because they're already idiots if they don't know. Good luck.

Hurt which group as a whole? So you are suggesting to call them out? Treat them like they are doing something wrong by not agreeing with the union? Are these the pilots who voted against the union in the first place? Why do you feel the need to pressure them to do something that they didn't want to do? It seems to me, like they have found a way to fight back against the union they didn't want in the first place. What gives the union the right to pressure these guys into doing something that they don't want to do? This is my whole premise against unions. Unions force their will on others that don't want there help. Just because you feel the need to be represented, doesn't mean that they feel they need the union help. You think that these guys are hurting the union cause. In my opinion, the union is hurting their cause, and I back their resistance 100%.