CAL Increasing Hiring Starting July

[ToThePain]

Just heard from training here in Houston that they are not going to wait till September to resume hiring and will increase the number of classes in July. Specific numbers weren't give but it sounds like they are expecting a minimum of 2 or 3 classes for July.

 

[pkober]

Hire 500 between now and March 2008, per school house.

 

[geshields]

Hire 500 between now and March 2008, per school house.

I sure hope so, we needed more people about 3 months ago...

 

[The Victors]

Attention CAL future hopefuls...start saving every penny now. Sell the cars and move into low rent housing so that you may afford that first year.

 

[CaravanMan]

Attention CAL future hopefuls...start saving every penny now. Sell the cars and move into low rent housing so that you may afford that first year.

I know this subject is very broad since I've read other posts such as this, BUT, for you 121 guys, what's ballpark earnings for 1st yr FO at CAL? I've always been part 135, so I don't really know how the whole pay/bid system works in your world and how it = take home pay.

 

[ACWild]

Use the calculator from this link.

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/continental.html

Although guarantee is 72 hours, most people in their first year will average 90/month.

 

[Patriot328]

I know this subject is very broad since I've read other posts such as this, BUT, for you 121 guys, what's ballpark earnings for 1st yr FO at CAL? I've always been part 135, so I don't really know how the whole pay/bid system works in your world and how it = take home pay.

All told I made about $39k my first year at CAL as a 756FO. This includes per diem, both in training (about 1300/month) and per diem for being on the road. I finished training and was able to hold a line in about six weeks/2 months or so.

I picked up some opentime and messed with my schedule. $29.97 is pathetic..

 

[ApocketA's_145]

Just heard from training here in Houston that they are not going to wait till September to resume hiring and will increase the number of classes in July. Specific numbers weren't give but it sounds like they are expecting a minimum of 2 or 3 classes for July.

dont know much about CAL... are you in contract negotiations? and if you are what are the main points that you are focused on to change in the future contract??? thanks

 

[CaravanMan]

Thanks for your help, fellas.

 

[minrest]

dont know much about CAL... are you in contract negotiations? and if you are what are the main points that you are focused on to change in the future contract??? thanks

The company and the Union have agreed to early openers on our Dec, 2008 concessionary contract. The main points are going to be everything in the contract. Hopefully our Negotiating Committee will show up on Day 1 with a copy of our older contract, 1998, and use that as a starting point. Our current contract, '02 is, with the exception of scope, a POS.

 

[Hutchman]

dont know much about CAL... are you in contract negotiations? and if you are what are the main points that you are focused on to change in the future contract??? thanks

We are meeting to set up a protocall agrement. We will know more soon as to when the real negotiating will start. Main focus is Everything! There is alot of room for improvement on every section of the block of Swiss Cheese we call a contract.

 

[M3pilot]

I just heard that upgrades are happening very fast there. Can anyone shed some light on this?

 

[geshields]

I just heard that upgrades are happening very fast there. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Next system bid comes out in August. 3rd year folks (hire date: June 2005)should be able to hold EWR 737 CA on that bid...

 

[thor2j]

Attention CAL future hopefuls...start saving every penny now. Sell the cars and move into low rent housing so that you may afford that first year.

Why didn't everyone say this about UPS and American??? UPS was less until about 5 months go. And there pay rates weren't out of site like they are now. Yes the 1st year rates suck at CAL, but other places were just as bad.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Have you actually heard that, or are you hopeful?

 

[BoilerUP]

Our current contract, '02 is, with the exception of scope, a POS.

As a non-CAL affiliated regional pilot...please, PLEASE do not negotiate away scope in your upcoming contract. Look no farther than Delta, Airways, and United to see what happens when you let management outsource anything bigger than 50 seats...

 

[Deerkiller]

As a non-CAL affiliated regional pilot...please, PLEASE do not negotiate away scope in your upcoming contract. Look no farther than Delta, Airways, and United to see what happens when you let management outsource anything bigger than 50 seats...

Dont worry I have yet to fly w/ someone who is willing to give up the bigger RJs to the regional feed. Most of the guys are pissed that we had 274 RJs to begin with. I dont see this pilot group giving up scope.

 

[j3ben]

I agree with Deerkiller. No one wants to give that up!

 

[pkober]

Attention CAL future hopefuls...start saving every penny now. Sell the cars and move into low rent housing so that you may afford that first year.

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure you can re-apply after being turned down. I think it's six months or a year.

If you don't work here, why do you care? We're not the lowest paid first year pilots, believe it or not but some do actually pay the same. We go to a whopping $30.57/hr on 1 Jul which is the same as some other airlines (www.airlinepilotcentral.com).

 

[Captain X]

We're not the lowest paid first year pilots, believe it or not but some do actually pay the same. We go to a whopping $30.57/hr on 1 Jul which is the same as some other airlines (www.airlinepilotcentral.com).

True that--

NWA - $30/hour
USA - $25/hour

Kudos to DAL ALPA for maintaining new-hire pay at $49/hour and having snap-backs!