ALPA votes 18 to 1 to throw out AAA/AWA award!

[vetrider]

The only reason the ruling appears to have gone the "west way" is because the east was so far out of bounds and unyielding from the get go. That is just this numbnut's opinion, thats all.

 

[PHXFLYR]

This from a US Air pilot to an HP pilot?? Pot meet Kettle.

Ain't that the truth!!


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

No, there will be no negotiating, just demands made and ultimatums now.
"Sonny?" Real cute, considering I am an old geezer out east.

If we rot out east, so will you, remember where the revenue comes from.
We can't get hurt any worse than we are already by this lopsided award and we intend to fix it. Maybe we will get hurt maybe not, kinda keeps you up
at night huh? What a dancing partner you have.

Hey "Old Geezer". Did you forget to take your dementia meds this morning?


PHXFLYR

 

[eaglefly]

And just how is the "crying child" going to leave?

Won't East and West pilots share the cockpit for years no matter what happens?

That aint gonna be a purdy picture no matter how you cut it...no sireee bobareeno...

Pilots will (and for the most part HAVE) come to work as professionals. SCAB Captains at CAL have survived (so has CAL), so yes some animosity in 5 years when junior U guys actually might fly with an AWA captain would go the same route as every other merger conflict.

They could cause a cockpit problem and risk their jobs I suppose, but that would be the extreme minority.

Besides, their anger should be at the arbitrator who didn't see things their way and not with the other pilots who did not make the decision. They will be blaming other pilots for the arbitrator's decision.

 

[eaglefly]

(THANK GOOD GOOD) I don't have a dog in this fight, but you have to wonder what the Cactus guys' position would have been had this outcome gone the other way?! Would they have just rolled over (most likely hpilot), and just said, well, its an arbitrators decision, or put up a fight like the east?!

737

Quite glad we never became part of Parker's cluster *^#&!

They would've been in the same position as the U guys..........unhappy with the decision, but helpless to change it.

They could threaten to oust ALPA, but that won't change it. Prater can't change it. The two sides will meet, disagree and ALPA cannot do a damn thing about it.

Maybe the U guys could ask for a dues increase from all members to offset perceived pay loss ?

 

[PHXFLYR]

You really believe your garbage don't you? Wrong on every point. Your not benefiting from east retirements in this so called award? Really? Who is paying the price for those? I submit east pilots stapled below you. Your own CEO never undergirded your delusion that you saved us, never. Now your rabid with entitlement. You got lucky with some lunatic who ratified your
greed inside a framework that should work for everybody and a whole lot of
pilots out east are really p-ssed. Apparently 14-1(awa) national ilk know
that their flight pay loss might be in jeopardy if they don't right this wrong.

This list will NEVER stand and is not worth the paper it is printed on, so like I said before, don't go buying that captains house. Take S_itsall to the park
and throw frisbee with him or something else.

For arguements sake even if you saved us and you did not, do we owe you?
You wanna get paid. You where hanging on to a thread also, a training camp for Southwest, and a scab operation down under, so the hell with you also.

Never mind the meds... too late for that. I suggest you seek professional help
Anger management specialist maybe?? Oh,and bring some of your US East buds with you,OK?


PHXFLYR

 

[d328pilot]

I wouldn't be so sure.

ALPA National is feeling A LOT of heat these days being portrayed as a powerless/outdated entity (with the overwhelming evidence that back up those accusations).

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is the fight they decide to sink their teeth into.

For ALPA to overturn this would be the end of ALPA. In every other business arena (including the airlines) when you agree to binding arbitration, you have NO recourse. IF this were overturned, the lawsuit from the HP pilots would financially ruin ALPA. (rightfully so)

 

[PHXFLYR]

Entitled to our east retirements. We brought that to this party.
You don't believe you saved us yet you intimate in your post we would not have the chance to come back unless AWA got involved. East furloughed should benefit from east retirements out east. Conditions and restrictions, fences. My personal business is just that personal. Yes I am furloughed, and yes I have bypassed recall. Probably will never come back, but have my convictions and principles and am quite bored at the moment on a long dull layover.

By the way, get a real scoot, ride a Harley.

Yet another one that "bypassed recall" so they could "probably never come back." Jeez,I wish you "ladies" would make up your minds already What little that might be left of them ......



PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

You will never be able to make the East guys happy.

Can I get an " Alleluial !!! " from the choir????


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

That's right 737Plt when you're as big as me you don't need to compensate. Unlike someone we all know .

Hey,make sure you talk nice about Billy's "girlfriend " General Lee, now. OK?

PHXFLYR

 

[LearLove]

I suggested this back in the UAL/AAA merger fiasco days then again during the MDA/Republic deal and I'll say it again now. Yes boys and girls its time for a GIANT STEEL CAGE MATCH.

First we pick a neutral are between East (coast) and West(PHX), say MEM (the FDX guys could preside over it). Then we build a giant steel cage and put everyone on the list (AAA/AWA) inside.

First guy to go down gets the last place on the list - Last guy standing gets sen#1. Everyone else gets placed in order they get knocked out. Sound good?? Maybe even sell tickets and carry it HBO PPV so we could make some $$$.

 

[vtwin]

Can I get an " Alleluial !!! " from the choir????


PHXFLYR

5 posts in 25 minutes and you have yet to say anything more
intelligent than a third grader. Still an impulsive spaz, huh?
The chicks must really dig you.

 

[vtwin]

That's right 737Plt when you're as big as me you don't need to compensate. Unlike someone we all know .

Thats right, what are you? 6'3" 220lbs and what, probably 3"? A real badass I'm sure.

 

[PHXFLYR]

5 posts in 25 minutes and you have yet to say anything more
intelligent than a third grader. Still an impulsive spaz, huh?
The chicks must really dig you.

Yes they do...including your girlfriend !!!!!




PHXFLYR

 

[vtwin]

Yes they do...including your girlfriend !!!!!




PHXFLYR

Oh boy Capt. Cornball, you really got me with that one, quick on the comebacks, very witty. I can hear you giggling with excitement now....Tell me, do you find your crew always ditches you on a layover?
Hmmmm, I wonder?

Later