Skybus wanabee's, think long and hard!

[lindsaya99]

OK, Guys, once again-

What we really need is a Guild . . . . . one that says "From this day forward, no Pilot will operate a B___ aircraft for less than $___. per hour.

Your existing union is still your union, but they cannot negotiate any pay rates below the rate set by the national Guild.

This way, the issue of pilot pay is "off the table". It cannot be used as a competitive advantage any longer.


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I like that idea except that instead of the payscale being based on the aircraft type it should be based on the seating capacity. CRJ 100/200/700/900/1000 are all the same type and therefore would be the same payscale. Obviously we want to avoid that. This becomes especially critical when the lines between Majors and Regionals begin to blur around the 100 seat mark. Compass E190s vs. NWA DC-9s, USAir E190s vs. Mesa CRJ900s. If payrates are determined on a per seat basis then the regionals would lose their cost advantage (at least as far as pilots are concerned).

 

[Ex737Driver]

You forget the thousands of stock options a year they get. If the options are structured well and the company takes off (no pun intended)then those pilot may just be millionaires in the future.

Just like the Jetblew millionaires....................

 

[AV80R]

Heard them on the radio for the 1st time yesterday. Controller kept calling them SkyLab.

Pilot got perturbed and corrected him 3 times.

Finally, the controller said "whatever". I don't think that Indy Center is deveotin too many brain cells to remembering another call sign. Especially one that is destined for such "great" things.

How come? Isn't their first flight scheduled for June 12th?

 

[SWA GUY]

You forget the thousands of stock options a year they get. If the options are structured well and the company takes off (no pun intended)then those pilot may just be millionaires in the future.

Compensation shouldn't be tied to luck.....

 

[skyking]

skybus is a joke. anybody going to work for them would be crazy. how much further down are the wages going to go?

 

[FLYLOW22]

How come? Isn't their first flight scheduled for June 12th?

No idea. Sounded funny to me too but I heard what I heard.

Maybe a training flight... who cares. The pilots weren't geting paid enough either way.

 

[Andy]

How come? Isn't their first flight scheduled for June 12th?

They start serving Richmond on May 23; I haven't checked other routes.

 

[HA25]

someone just posted in another Skybus thread an interesting point.. CMH based NetJets pays a 2nd year FO in a small jet (in some cases) as much as a SkyBus Captain... that is really sad.

 

[FADEC]

someone just posted in another Skybus thread an interesting point.. CMH based NetJets pays a 2nd year FO in a small jet (in some cases) as much as a SkyBus Captain... that is really sad.

An a 2nd year widebody FO at Fedex makes more than a 10 yr Gemini CA. You really don't get it, do you!!! Pot meet kettle.

 

[jonjuan]

Compensation shouldn't be tied to luck.....

SOunds a bit socialist. Who ever told you Southwest is guaranteed to still be in business in 20 years?

 

[Skywriter70]

Hmmmm..

Management is winning, pilot groups fighting and putting each other down. Not a poor sole working together (TOGETHER) to make the necessary change......

 

[Flybet3]

And what about all the guys who paid for $10,500 for training in order to fly a BE-1900 for a commuter did they get a job? ALPA is more and more becoming a laughing stock. If you are a union carrier making low wages its ok but if you are non-union you are somehow ruining the profession. Save me the diatribe.

What about all the whores that keep buying their 737 types to go to southwest? How does that work? it amazes me that people justify this BS and bit*ch about Skybus. Hypocrits!

 

[Flybet3]

Several answers:

first, my company is a small 8 airplane,

This is the WORST excuse I have EVER heard! V70T5, just get your sh*t get out and shut the ***k up. Tool

 

[Philerup]

An a 2nd year widebody FO at Fedex makes more than a 10 yr Gemini CA. You really don't get it, do you!!! Pot meet kettle

Not to mention a couple of years back when you used to see Gemini planes on the FedEx ramp in Memphis. The FedEx pilots were pissed that Gemini was flying some of their freight but I never saw one on here saying that Gemini pilots should be blackballed in the industry. The prevailing wisdom is actually the opposite. If you want to get on with FedEx or UPS go to one of the 36th street freighters and get some international widebody experience. Good thing for all those guys sweating it out at Arrow, Amerijet, and Gemini that FedEx and UPS don't hold the grudge that V70T5 wants to hold against Skybus pilots.

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

What are the mins at SkyBus?